Alamo Ammo banner ad .22 ammo in stock!

[ScouT6a]

By no means was I trying to tell the site owner how to run his site and no I do not support it financially. Like I said, the ad's price on .22 ammo that was 138% over the "going rate" just rubbed me the wrong way that day.
I know there is some scrutiny that goes into ads for site supporters and I understand the mods can't screen every single ad.
I no, I am not buying ammo from this particular site supporter.

 

[Scutter01]

I know there is some scrutiny that goes into ads for site supporters and I understand the mods can't screen every single ad.

Mods have nothing whatsoever to do with the ads that are displayed. They have no say and no control over them whatsoever. They are Fenway's decision, and even then there are contractual requirements.

 

[ScouT6a]

Scutter01,
I don't know the exact process, as you appear to, I just meant SOMEBODY looks at what is going to be advertised. Reason we don't have banner ads running for toothpaste and porn.

 

[xM3RC1L3SS1x]

Then don't buy it.

+1

 

[Bennettjh]

Then don't buy it.

Exactly.

I'm all for companies supporting INGO. I try to do my part too.

As far as Alamo Ammo, I've been to their site once.

 

[Scutter01]

Scutter01,
I don't know the exact process, as you appear to, I just meant SOMEBODY looks at what is going to be advertised. Reason we don't have banner ads running for toothpaste and porn.

The ads are for "guns and gun related items", which is why you don't see toothpaste and porn ads. The specific ads are chosen by the ad agency according to the agency's contracts with the companies who advertise through them. Fenway has a contract with the agency to serve the agency's ads and has some say as to whether or not specific ads can be shown, but he is also bound by contractual obligations with the agency. His contract also requires him to actually display the ads, meaning he can't just remove the entire ad space at-will. I do happen to know the exact process that INGO uses due to my past involvement with it, but I can tell you that pretty much any website operates similarly. Website owners rarely serve their own ads but usually sell the space to an agency to manage.

That said, there is no reason whatsoever for him to ask to have the Alamo Ammo ad removed. INGO LLC. is not in the business of policing the prices of its advertisers. That would be a ridiculous and pointless amount of work. We don't do it in the classifieds, we don't do it to our advertising supporters, and we don't do it to the advertising agencies. The only way an ad would get removed is if it's serving up something malicious (like spyware), illegal, or off-topic for INGO's focus.

To put it in perspective, let's say you (as the owner of INGO, LLC.) had to make the decision to pull an ad based on the price. What is the absolute highest price that your advertiser should be allowed to charge for, say, .22LR? 5% over cost? 10%? 100%? How do you know what their overhead is? How much profit should you allow them to make on a given sale? Or do you just leave the ad until someone complains that the price of one item is too high? As the website owner, who are you to dictate their P&L sheet and tell them what prices they can set?

As a consumer, you have the choice to buy or not buy as you see fit and that's where the power should lie. If you want to complain about an advertiser's price, that's your prerogative and you're even welcome to do it here on INGO, but as soon as you start saying things like "INGO is OK with them running that ad on here??", then you've kind of stepped over a line a bit.

 

[38special]

The ads are for "guns and gun related items", which is why you don't see toothpaste and porn ads. The specific ads are chosen by the ad agency according to the agency's contracts with the companies who advertise through them. Fenway has a contract with the agency to serve the agency's ads and has some say as to whether or not specific ads can be shown, but he is also bound by contractual obligations with the agency. His contract also requires him to actually display the ads, meaning he can't just remove the entire ad space at-will. I do happen to know the exact process that INGO uses due to my past involvement with it, but I can tell you that pretty much any website operates similarly. Website owners rarely serve their own ads but usually sell the space to an agency to manage.

That said, there is no reason whatsoever for him to ask to have the Alamo Ammo ad removed. INGO LLC. is not in the business of policing the prices of its advertisers. That would be a ridiculous and pointless amount of work. We don't do it in the classifieds, we don't do it to our advertising supporters, and we don't do it to the advertising agencies. The only way an ad would get removed is if it's serving up something malicious (like spyware), illegal, or off-topic for INGO's focus.

To put it in perspective, let's say you (as the owner of INGO, LLC.) had to make the decision to pull an ad based on the price. What is the absolute highest price that your advertiser should be allowed to charge for, say, .22LR? 5% over cost? 10%? 100%? How do you know what their overhead is? How much profit should you allow them to make on a given sale? Or do you just leave the ad until someone complains that the price of one item is too high? As the website owner, who are you to dictate their P&L sheet and tell them what prices they can set?

As a consumer, you have the choice to buy or not buy as you see fit and that's where the power should lie. If you want to complain about an advertiser's price, that's your prerogative and you're even welcome to do it here on INGO, but as soon as you start saying things like "INGO is OK with them running that ad on here??", then you've kind of stepped over a line a bit.

Get out of here with basic common sense and logic. That has no place in a .22 ammo thread.

 

[ScouT6a]

"but as soon as you start saying things like "INGO is OK with them running that ad on here??", then you've kind of stepped over a line a bit.
Scutter0,
Opinion noted. If you think asking this question is "crossing the line" you must live a dull life.

 

[Scutter01]

Opinion noted. If you think asking this question is "crossing the line" you must live a dull life.

I have a vested interest in INGO and admittedly take it somewhat personally when it's unfairly attacked. I'd be interested to know if you also blame magazines and newspapers for running ads for companies you don't like?

 

[chef larry]

Just because you don't buy the .22 doesn't mean you can't find a deal on something else you want. Like retail stores that run adds to get you inside and you see what you want at a good price.

 

[ScouT6a]

I have a vested interest in INGO and admittedly take it somewhat personally when it's unfairly attacked. I'd be interested to know if you also blame magazines and newspapers for running ads for companies you don't like?

Sir, I am glad to see that you are a loyal supporter of INGO. Now we are at the point that asking a open ended question is "unfairly attacking" the website?
I have admitted that the ad just happened to catch me wrong that particular day. I understand they support this site with their advertising. Been stated by numerous individuals, including myself, that noone is forced to pay their asking price.

 

[Scutter01]

Sir, I am glad to see that you are a loyal supporter of INGO. Now we are at the point that asking a open ended question is "unfairly attacking" the website?
I have admitted that the ad just happened to catch me wrong that particular day. I understand they support this site with their advertising. Been stated by numerous individuals, including myself, that noone is forced to pay their asking price.

"Seriously, INGO is OK with them running that ad on here??" isn't an open-ended question. It's a thinky-veiled accusation disguised as a yes-or-no question, which is pretty much the polar oppostite of "open-ended". The question itself implies that INGO, LLC is somehow complicit in the advertiser's pricing policies because INGO is "OK with them running that ad on here". The truth is that the answer is neither "yes" nor "no". INGO takes a neutral position on the topic. I repeat my previous question: "I'd be interested to know if you also blame magazines and newspapers for running ads for companies you don't like?"

 

[ScouT6a]

Out of all the responses here, I didn't see any Yes or No responses. Looks like others figured it out.
I think your spring is wound a little too tight.

 

[Scutter01]

I think your spring is wound a little too tight.

Why do you say that? You're the only one who keeps bringing it back up. I'm only responding.

 

[ScouT6a]

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