Afghanistan

[Cameramonkey]

Does any of that surprise you?

All of these "mistakes" are really part of the plan. The military bureaucrats thrive off of war.

And the best way to curry favor with the public and get them to ask you to bomb other people is to be able to show them some dead bodies.

Same thing happens with the mass murders here in the US. The murderers are well all known to law enforcement and they know they are likely to go off the reservation and kill lots of people, but they sit back and tell us that it is the guns that are the problem.

Like this? BREAKING:

New Zealand Police Kill ‘Extremist’ Who Stabbed 6 in ISIS-Inspired Attack (Published 2021)

The man was under surveillance when he injured six people at a West Auckland supermarket on Friday, officials said. The prime minister called it a “terrorist attack.”

www.nytimes.com

He was known to authorities and on active police surveillance when he stabbed 6 people.

 

[buckwacker]

See the disconnect there in your own thoughts?

It's not that America or the American gov't wanted the Taliban in charge. It's that we weren't willing to do what would need to be done for the Taliban to not eventually be in charge. Trump knew it and is why he negotiated with the Taliban. Biden's screw up wasn't leaving, it was how he left. We weren't going to fight Pakistan. We weren't going to stay for generations. It was not worth it to us. Afghanistan and the Taliban is not a threat to our sovereignty. They are not a peer nation capable of inflicting debilitating damage. They are not a threat to our way of life, aside from any self-inflicted wounds from reacting to terrorism. How much time/treasure/talent do we continue to invest to prop up not-Taliban?

I'm sorry but I don't see a disconnect. Maybe your perception that one exists stems from the faulty assumption that you believe I think we should have stayed. I don't.

I'm simply saying the manner in which the withdrawal was executed has served the interests of the Taliban with great damage to our own. There were too many individual decisions through this whole process that resulted in those two outcomes for this to be coincidental and I have to wonder why.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

I'm sorry but I don't see a disconnect.

No, the disconnect is when you say you think we wanted the Taliban in charge vs we accepted the Taliban would be in charge*. Even if Biden & Co had orchestrated the absolute bestest exit from the country ever, the end result was going to be Taliban in charge.

*or at least the currently winning faction of their ongoing tribal warfare.

 

[tbhausen]

What is with this assbag bidet always pronouncing "taliban" as "tollybon"?
Who is directing him to do that?
Same with obama speeches about "pakistan" as "pocky-ston".
It grates every time I hear it.

The same person that trained Obama to do it. It’s always bothered me, as well. They don’t deserve the respect of correct pronunciation of their names. Especially by our president.

 

[actaeon277]

Yes, but they had all been 'demilitarized' as claimed by the powers that be.

Just what does that mean? Disabling the MP3 player?

The stuff the Afgan govt had, was not demil'd.

 

[buckwacker]

No, the disconnect is when you say you think we wanted the Taliban in charge vs we accepted the Taliban would be in charge*. Even if Biden & Co had orchestrated the absolute bestest exit from the country ever, the end result was going to be Taliban in charge.

*or at least the currently winning faction of their ongoing tribal warfare.

When you say disconnect, do you simply mean you disagree? Because disconnect used in this context generally denotes a logical fallacy.

I don't disagree than we should have gotten out, and I don't disagree that the expectation was that the Taliban would take over when we left. So fundamentally the only point of contention is whether our withdrawal was executed in a specific manner that served to prop up the Taliban. I see a series of decisions made throughout this withdrawal process that seemed to serve that purpose. One or two might be a coincidence, but when it's nearly all of them, I stop believing it's coincidental.

 

[buckwacker]

A great talk about how it’s not a coincidence, go check out wagyu52 latest post in the patriots at the capital thread.

edit; pay no attention to the text in the link, irrelevant.

Live Feed, Patriots at the Capitol

You're a much better troll than he or i This sounds vaguely like an admission to trolling. I'm pretty sure you know what the Kut reference meant.

www.indianagunowners.com

“You can’t screw up a country this bad in 7 months without doing it on purpose”.
Worth the listen.

I saw that earlier, and I think he got a lot of things right. It will take a lot of wisdom to correctly strike the proper balance between refusing to take the bait and not waiting until all hope of righting the ship has been extinguished.

 

[ditcherman]

I saw that earlier, and I think he got a lot of things right. It will take a lot of wisdom to correctly strike the proper balance between refusing to take the bait and not waiting until all hope of righting the ship has been extinguished.

Well said. Wisdom.

 

[yote hunter]

So haven’t heard anything on the news or anything else about going to get the stranded US people in Afghanistan !?
So is this just a write off or what !?

 

[rhamersley]

So haven’t heard anything on the news or anything else about going to get the stranded US people in Afghanistan !?
So is this just a write off or what !?

 

[KG1]

All this is in the rear view mirror now and will be mostly forgotten by the media by the next news cycle.

 

[ditcherman]

So haven’t heard anything on the news or anything else about going to get the stranded US people in Afghanistan !?
So is this just a write off or what !?

Probably not going to “hear it on the news”. If you do it’s a lie or old news.

Here’s a link to save our allies. It sounds like they’ve pivoted away from rescue https://saveourallies.org/ and to placement and care, of both afghans and vet support.

Here’s a link to an interview with a former Bush assistant Secretary of defense person that still trying to get people out overland, since the airports are closed.
Unfortunately no links in that for further info.

I think the least we can do is dig for info to keep awareness up, hoping something sticks. The people that are working probably really feel a need to stay under the radar though.

They will write it off if we let them.

 

[actaeon277]

At this point, it may not be a good point to advertise what is being done.

Some things are best talked about after.

 

[DadSmith]

After US exit, Taliban declares China as its main partner in Afghanistan

New Delhi, Sep 3: Cash strapped Taliban says China will be its closest ally, and key partner in the "reconstruction"..

www.google.com

I knew this was coming even though people assumed that it wouldn't. China is going to secure the largest rare earth deposits known outside China.

No rare earths no computers.....

 

[bwframe]

At least 17 killed in celebratory gunfire in Kabul - reports

At least 17 people were killed in celebratory gunfire in Kabul, news agencies said on Saturday, after Taliban sources said their fighters had seized control of Panjshir, the last province in Afghanistan holding out against the Islamist group.

www.reuters.com

 

[Tombs]

After US exit, Taliban declares China as its main partner in Afghanistan

New Delhi, Sep 3: Cash strapped Taliban says China will be its closest ally, and key partner in the "reconstruction"..

www.google.com

I knew this was coming even though people assumed that it wouldn't. China is going to secure the largest rare earth deposits known outside China.

No rare earths no computers.....

There's one potential benefit here...

Cheap gen 3 night vision tubes.

 

[DadSmith]

There's one potential benefit here...

Cheap gen 3 night vision tubes.

The silver lining?

 

[bwframe]

Afghan women’s march swiftly dispersed by Taliban gunfire

The march began in the Afghan capital Kabul as demonstrators first went to the country’s Defense Ministry to pay homage to soldiers who died.

nypost.com

 

[HoosierLife]

After US exit, Taliban declares China as its main partner in Afghanistan

New Delhi, Sep 3: Cash strapped Taliban says China will be its closest ally, and key partner in the "reconstruction"..

www.google.com

I knew this was coming even though people assumed that it wouldn't. China is going to secure the largest rare earth deposits known outside China.

No rare earths no computers.....

Time to give some money to Elon Musk to haul in some asteroids with some rare earth metals.

 

[bwframe]