Thank you sir. I put a brown one in there for you. It's almost like wood.Good looking collection of evil black guns.
That looks pretty sweet, if I already had a glock, I'd get one.
Yeah, problem is I read that Hi-point firing pins routinely get bent in the 9mm carbines. Especially when you insult their intelligence. But seriously, I've read enough that I don't think I could trust my life to it. I feel it's too much of a gamble.
A lot of posters have suggested 5.56 over 9mm for home defense. It has its advantages, but they are all ballistic. Physical advantages go to 9mm. It's just smaller, and works out of shorter barrel. That was the purpose of the above pictures.
All guns pictured will accept 30 round mags, so that part is equal.
The ARs are about 3 times the velocity at 1/3 the weight of sub sonic 9mm. Barrel length makes a lot of difference in the ARs. The AR gets its advantage from the velocity that it gains from the longer barrel. But, the shorter the barrel, the velocity drops off, and we add muzzle flash, and overpressure.
To defeat the flash and the over pressure, you have to add a suppressor. That puts a 10.3" SBR back to even with 16" rifle length.
The 9mm is designed for a pistol with 4" barrel. The velocity gains for a longer barrel are minimal. The main advantage is maneuverability, and the ability to suppress, neither of which can be done by a 5.56.
All tools have a purpose, pick the proper hammer for the task at hand.
The op didn't say anything about an sbr tho. He wanted a hipoint carbine. Somehow this has morphed into $2k plus gun/suppressor suggestions with 400 dollars worth of tax stamps for sbr/suppressors. I highly doubt the op is going to spend more on taxes than his original gun want in the hi point.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one wondering about this...
Still, if I'd be looking for a carbine / longer pistol to defend my urban home, yet only had around $500 to do it (firearm only), then I'd be torn between the AR in 556 and the Hi-Point in 9mm or a Kel-Tec Sub2k in 9mm. The AR has a ballistic advantage for distance, but I'd be using it in my urban home. The Hi-Point is the least expensive, but has the least capacity of my suggested options (and the mags are hot garbage). The Kel-Tec Sub2k has a track record of reliability, can use Glock mags (depending on the model), and can be folded in half for a more compact package during storage.
For my HD or EDC gear, I prefer reliability vs comfort. Reliability is a pump SG, but if I had an AR9 with a can that I had proven out for reliability, I'd consider it a good HD option.Give me a hipoint of a sub2k anyday. Ergonomics like a cinderblock and was like shooting a 2x4 that was getting kicked by an angry mule(not that hard, but it left bruises on all 4 of us that shot it). Mine may have been a lemon. The only thing I liked about my sub2k was that it sold for what I bought it for minus taxes. I demand that my guns be fun, even my hd set ups.
For my HD or EDC gear, I prefer reliability vs comfort. Reliability is a pump SG, but if I had an AR9 with a can that I had proven out for reliability, I'd consider it a good HD option.