2 more of IMPD's finest arrested

[88GT]

For a libertarian yu seem to hold some unlibertarian opinions.

 

[Denny347]

For a libertarian yu seem to hold some unlibertarian opinions.

Many people are hard to define with just a single word.

 

[Expat]

For a libertarian yu seem to hold some unlibertarian opinions.

There were a bunch of them that voted for Obama, so I am not going to try to figure them out any more.

 

[jbombelli]

There were a bunch of them that voted for Obama, so I am not going to try to figure them out any more.

Huh. I know several and not one of them voted for Obama.

 

[Expat]

Huh. I know several and not one of them voted for Obama.

Huh. I didn't say all of them did. Did you catch that?

There were a couple self described libertarians here on INGO that hinted that they did. There were websites dedicated to the idea. The official rag of libertarians, discussed the phenomenon.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Huh. I know several and not one of them voted for Obama.

Huh. I didn't say all of them did. Did you catch that?


There were a couple self described libertarians here on INGO that hinted that they did. There were websites dedicated to the idea. The official rag of libertarians, discussed the phenomenon.

A friend of mine at work, though I can't swear to whether he ever called himself a libertarian but certainly professed many of the common libertarian outlooks and theories I continue to observe, not only voted for him but claimed he took his daughter's absentee ballot and filled it out for her as well.

 

[Expat]

A friend of mine at work, though I can't swear to whether he ever called himself a libertarian but certainly professed many of the common libertarian outlooks and theories I continue to observe, not only voted for him but claimed he took his daughter's absentee ballot and filled it out for her as well.

But of course you know what is coming... the usual refrain "those aren't real libertarians"...

 

[jbombelli]

Huh. I didn't say all of them did. Did you catch that?

There were a couple self described libertarians here on INGO that hinted that they did. There were websites dedicated to the idea. The official rag of libertarians, discussed the phenomenon.

If there was "a bunch" as you claimed, I think I would know at least ONE actual libertarian that did so. Oh... and saying you're a libertarian doesn't mean you are one. I can run on over to Huffpo or Daily Kos and claim to be a Democrat or a socialist and talk about why I'm voting for a Republican. That doesn't make any of it true.

I don't personally know the people being talked about. But I do know quite a few libertarians and i am pretty sure none of them voted Democrat in the last election.

 

[Expat]

If there was "a bunch" as you claimed, I think I would know at least ONE actual libertarian that did so. Oh... and saying you're a libertarian doesn't mean you are one. I can run on over to Huffpo or Daily Kos and claim to be a Democrat or a socialist and talk about why I'm voting for a Republican. That doesn't make any of it true.

LOL, ah, so we are needing a definition of "a bunch"... I would think the Reason article was written about "a bunch" since it generated an article on the subject...

 

[jbombelli]

LOL, ah, so we are needing a definition of "a bunch"... I would think the Reason article was written about "a bunch" since it generated an article on the subject...

It would help. If by "a bunch" you mean "three" that's a lot different than "thousands."

And I never read Reason. It's not my rag.

Groups like the Million Mom March, and MDA claim a bunch of support too.

I recommend stop worrying about libertarians, go vote for more Romneys and be happy with what you get.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

It would help. If by "a bunch" you mean "three" that's a lot different than "thousands."

And I never read Reason. It's not my rag.

You can't be a real libertarian then.

 

[Expat]

Can we get a ruling from the Purity Council?

 

[jbombelli]

You can't be a real libertarian then.

I know, right? I read INGO.

Can we get a ruling from the Purity Council?

Kirk will be along soon.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Can we get a ruling from the Purity Council?

They're busy. The latest issue of Reason Magazine just arrived.

 

[Expat]

Kirk will be along soon.

I thought another INGO member handled decisions on who was allowed to call themselves libertarian.

 

[PaulF]

 

[Expat]

Uh Oh.... mods....

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Kirk will be along soon.

Yeah, sorry about being late. I was busy writing newsletters which I will later deny writing.

So, what's the problem? Deciding who can and cannot be a Libertarian? Man, that's a tough job as the standards keep changing.

Anywho, back on topic. Did anyone else see the Fox 59 interview with the alleged victim?

That guy took a stomping and he had a bright and cheery attitude. Impressive.

http://fox59.com/2014/09/10/victim-...ting-says-he-holds-no-ill-will-toward-police/

Wait and see what transpires.

 

[88GT]

Many people are hard to define with just a single word.

Well, it's not that friggin hard when they define themselves for us.

 

[Libertarian01]

To All,

Perhaps I should have clarified better, it was late so for that, "oops."

I have not said the LEO's involved should not be punished. I have not said that there was no wrong done here by either side.

The point I was going for was that the man who lost the fight was the one who initiated the fight! He committed Battery by grabbing & throwing the badge. I am looking specifically at IC 35-42-2-1(b) (Indiana Code 35-42-2). It could be argued that it was either a Class B Misdemeanor or Level 6 felony. The specifics would be if the officers were acting in their official capacity. As I am not a lawyer I will leave this to the realm of the experts. So why hasn't he been charged and arrested? Even IF the LEO's broke the law the fact remains that he broke it as well! (if my interpretation is even remotely correct)

So an obnoxious, drunk goober is told to leave the private property by an agent of the properties owner. He refuses. Two (2) known off duty LEO's are asked to help. Unwisely, they do so. The drunk initiates physical violence and, expectedly, loses the battle. Duh! What have I read on these boards from others - something about stupid games and prizes...?

The LEO's go overboard and IF everything is as it appears, should be punished. However, they should be treated no differently than any other person who is in the system. If the standard person arrested for fighting is an insignificant charge and probation they should receive the same, no better nor worse. That said, IF either one of them has a history of extensive physical abuse they should be removed from the position of authority.

As far as Libertarian goes, the drunk idiot had the right to swing away. The LEOs had the right to respond. Just because they responded harder and better doesn't mean anything! If someone comes at you with a knife and you have a gun and a knife, which choice will you make? There is nothing in the "rights" area that compels an equal response! Acknowledging such is somewhat libertarian I think.

Regards,

Doug