Complains about reliability of M16 picks 1911 as sidearm brilliant!
...It may be the "best" pistol, but all they need is something that goes bang every time they pull the trigger, and something lighter and smaller would be better IMO. It makes no sense whatsoever to pay almost 3x as much for a pistol that you never use, than your main battle weapon.
I love the idea of this, specially buying American. But why not use M&P or something? They could get those for probably $300 each on contact, and instead they went with the most expensive pistol practically in existence.
Wait.....what?
They've already been there, done that. Now they are back to what works.
So they bought 10,000 pistols for 22.5 million which breaks down to $2250 per pistol. Imagine how many upgrades you could give each soldier with $1750-1450 you could have saved going with Hk/sig/glock/SW/FN.
Seems pretty clear to me. Stock 1911's are not nearly as reliable as modern stock pistols. The random pushes to replace the m16 with something more reliable makes this laughable to me because its usually the same people that that want 1911's want rid of the m16.
I'm not saying that 1911's are junk or M16's are jesus on a stick. But the reliability aspect a glock/sig/hk/fn is going to me more reliable then a 1911. And the gap is a lot bigger then m16 vs Scar/hk416/ACR.
The cost,weight, magazine capacity really makes me wonder WTF.
Take some folks off welfare, cut the pay of Congress or the President and let the Marines have the pistol they want. The platform works and history proves that. It is an obvious choice.
Take some folks off welfare, cut the pay of Congress or the President and let the Marines have the pistol they want. The platform works and history proves that. It is an obvious choice.
First time I meet a Marine like that ^, I'll eat a booger!!Marines don't know what they want/need. They need to be told what works by the keyboard commandos populating the interweb.
</Thread>They've already been there, done that. Now they are back to what works.
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Got to wonder what other guns it beat out and why?
I am a huge fan of 1911's, I am not a polymer gun hater, some I like some I don't.
At $1875 per pistol that is a lot of money.
The FBI SWAT HRT went with a custom built Springfield, those guns went to shooters. The marines are only ordering 12k of these, there are over 200,000 thousand marines. These guns are going to shooters