You mean like the neighborhood watch captain identifying himself to Martin and why he was following him?
I keep forgetting you were there.... how do you know this isn't exactly what happened?
You mean like the neighborhood watch captain identifying himself to Martin and why he was following him?
I keep forgetting you were there.... how do you know this isn't exactly what happened?
I keep forgetting you were there.... how do you know this isn't exactly what happened?
Some basements are equipped with listening devices?
The investigators said it could have been avoided if he stayed in his truck or identified himself.
As have countless MORONS on Youtube, and in general society.
Using this point as the basis of one's argument, tells me that the person realizes that he has no factual rebuttal, and is grasping for straws. Proffering this arguing point is usually the final step, before melting into emotional profanity.
That's just like saying "Yeah but if Zimmerman would never have left his house that day" blah..blah.. Well he did both so that 20/20 hindsight does'nt have any bearing on the facts of what actually took place.As have countless MORONS on Youtube, and in general society.
Using this point as the basis of one's argument, tells me that the person realizes that he has no factual rebuttal, and is grasping for straws. Proffering this arguing point is usually the final step, before melting into emotional profanity.
That's just like saying "Yeah but if Zimmerman would never have left his house that day" blah..blah.. Well he did both so that 20/20 hindsight does'nt have any bearing on the facts of what actually took place.
Howbout dealing with those?
Do you have more evidence than those who have direct access to it?
Evidence of what?
While it is an incontrovertible fact, that had GZ not exited his vehicle, he never would have encountered TM, it neither proves, nor disproves, anything concerning the possible criminality of GZ's actions.
As far as we know, the incident at hand, essentially occurred between two pedestrians.
An assertion that GZ's jacket had no GSR, and eyewitness testimony by a woman claiming to have seen an actor in a white t-shirt, and a person in cuffs, wearing a, "hoodie", may stand all factual information we think we have, firmly on its head.
Trayvon Case New Evidence: Zimmerman Had NO Gunshot Residue; Gun Had Multiple DNA Contributers!!! [VIDEO] | Axiom Amnesia
http://www.axiomamnesia.com/Audio/Treyvon-Martin-George-Zimmerman-Young-Female-Neighbor-Sees-Zimmerman.mp3
http://www.axiomamnesia.com/Audio/Trayvon-Zimmerman-Witness-Interviews/Trayvon-Martin-George-Zimmerman-Witness-Statements-Audio-Witness3-Female-White-Shirt.mp3
I would hope all of us could be united in a search for the truth. None of us wants to see a good man get railroaded, for simply trying to defend himself with a firearm. At the same time, it does us all a disservice, for someone who carries, to act in any sort of criminal manner.
I do want to know the truth is.
It's been stated multiple times here that the shell was never ejected from the chamber. There has been strong speculation that Martin was holding on to the gun, thus keeping the gun from cycling. Your first link shows a pic of a spent casing down in the grass. If Martin was holding onto the gun when it was fired, there should be GSR on his hand or sleeve. I wonder if they were tested.
That supposition probably germinated from the seed planted by Ayoob. Until the evidence dump last week, his was the only info available. People took his words, and constructed their own biased narratives. They shall be known by their fruits.
In his 23MAR2012 BHM blog entry, Masaad Ayoob wrote, " It has been reported that the gun was recovered with a full magazine and that only the chambered round had been fired. This is a condition we associate with something preventing the gun from cycling a fresh round from the magazine into the chamber after the shot was discharged. One thing that can cause that is another man’s hand wrapped around the pistol, retarding its slide mechanism. " Massad Ayoob
My understanding, until evidence became available, was that one round fired and ejected, but none chambered, as if the mag had fallen loose, which is not unlikely with a PF-9. From what I read now, it appears as though it was loaded 7+1, and one round was successfully fired. However, they couldn't find GSR on Zimmerman's jacket, which makes me wonder what's fishy about the totality of GSR testing on the Sanford PD.
The media is contradicting itself really? Looks like Hornadylnl has a future in media work.
How many times was it posted as fact in this forum that the shell casing was never ejected? Where did that fact come from? Was it a media source? Please give me a list of INGO approved media sources so I'll know where to get my facts in the future.
How many times was it posted as fact in this forum that the shell casing was never ejected? Where did that fact come from? Was it a media source? Please give me a list of INGO approved media sources so I'll know where to get my facts in the future.