If anyone is interested I am the one he got it on trade from. This gun has gone west with a firefighter friend of mine 2 or 3 times for mulie's. While messin around camp he said he would pop pdogs out to 400 yards. I know thats not very impressive unless you realize it had a simmons 3-9x40 scope on it. I used to target shoot with it and was impressed with it, its been a while so i dont have any numbers for you, but i know it would hold sub min. And i think it was 1/2 in. I reluctantly traded because i upgraded to a Browning BarII and didnt think i needed two .300 WM.