Where is "the wrong place" for a gun?

[miguel]

 

[Lowe0]

Anywhere that the property owner says no.

 

[MohawkSlim]

I'm baffled by the logic behind this guy's stance. Who is protecting him while at church? If god's "power" is protecting him at church, surely it would protect him at home as well, right? And in his car, at work.... everywhere he goes.

Not to spin this off topic but this is where the whole religion thing starts to lose ground for me. I know way too many "religious people" who claim things like the above "God will protect us." and then completely ignore every other reality in life. "You just have to have faith." When it comes time to stand on that faith at home or out in public, all the sudden they're all like, "Well, God is busy at the moment so it's up to us to protect ourselves. HE gives us the tools to do so and therefore we must." Uh.... how about those tools while you're visiting one of his houses? Did he tell you, "Don't worry, bruh. I got this?"

I'm all for loving the Lord. But it would be nice if folks would apply logic in the Lord across the board.

 

[dudley0]

Courthouses and courtrooms? Unless and until they start strip searching and cavity searching EVERYONE including the cops, guards, and judges ... then it's wrong to bar people from being armed. Especially when they're in the courthouse for business unrelated to the anything in the courts. In fact, if they're going to put metal detectors in court houses, they need to move EVERYTHING that is not the court to a different location.

I couldn't agree more. Just bought a house in Muncie. Had to go in to pay the property taxes and quit claim the thing into my business. I went to the county building. They had metal detectors and a deputy at the door. I had to go back and disarm.

Came back and beeped. Mentioned steel toes and he wanded me. Had a hit on my back pocket. I forgot the speed strip for my BUG. I explained what I had, he asked if I was LEO. I headed back again to disarm.

When I went thru that time I asked him if they had courtrooms in there. I had not seen that on the website. He said no courts were in there. I asked why the GFZ and he shrugged. I asked him if he would walk me back to my car since I had to disarm to be there. He laughed, but said he couldn't leave his post.

Finished my business with them and found out I can do it all via snail mail. One less GFZ for me to deal with.

 

[Dirtebiker]

MRI machine.

Winner!

 

[Kutnupe14]

I might get flamed for this one, but generally I'm OK with the general population not being allowed to carry in a court room ... provided there are law enforcement officials in the room.

A trial or sentencing hearing can be extremely volatile when families of victims and suspects are involved. We have due process and I don't want to see someone take justice into their own hands.

That's about the only place I could think of.

Im with you, no guns in courtrooms.

 

[IndyDave1776]

My favorite place where a gun does not belong is down the front of your pants, as can be attested by an inmate who was on my unit when I worked for the Department of Correction who had shot himself in the d**k.

I'm baffled by the logic behind this guy's stance. Who is protecting him while at church? If god's "power" is protecting him at church, surely it would protect him at home as well, right? And in his car, at work.... everywhere he goes.

Not to spin this off topic but this is where the whole religion thing starts to lose ground for me. I know way too many "religious people" who claim things like the above "God will protect us." and then completely ignore every other reality in life. "You just have to have faith." When it comes time to stand on that faith at home or out in public, all the sudden they're all like, "Well, God is busy at the moment so it's up to us to protect ourselves. HE gives us the tools to do so and therefore we must." Uh.... how about those tools while you're visiting one of his houses? Did he tell you, "Don't worry, bruh. I got this?"

I'm all for loving the Lord. But it would be nice if folks would apply logic in the Lord across the board.

This reminds me of the story about the man who died in a flood. When a fire engine stopped at his house and the firemen offered to take him to safety, he declined saying, "The Lord will provide for me." Later, as he was on the roof to keep out of the flood waters, a boat stopped and its owners offered to take him to safety, when he declined saying, "The Lord will provide for me." Finally, he was standing on top the chimney and a helicopter hovers overhead and he is offered to be taken to safety. Once again, he declines, saying, "The Lord will provide for me." The man drowned and when he arrived in front of the Lord, he asked, "Why did you let me drown? I was sure you would provide for me." The Lord answered, "I sent you a fire engine, a boat, and a helicopter. What more did you want?"

 

[MCgrease08]

I couldn't agree more. Just bought a house in Muncie. Had to go in to pay the property taxes and quit claim the thing into my business. I went to the county building. They had metal detectors and a deputy at the door. I had to go back and disarm.

Came back and beeped. Mentioned steel toes and he wanded me. Had a hit on my back pocket. I forgot the speed strip for my BUG. I explained what I had, he asked if I was LEO. I headed back again to disarm.

When I went thru that time I asked him if they had courtrooms in there. I had not seen that on the website. He said no courts were in there. I asked why the GFZ and he shrugged. I asked him if he would walk me back to my car since I had to disarm to be there. He laughed, but said he couldn't leave his post.

Finished my business with them and found out I can do it all via snail mail. One less GFZ for me to deal with.

Let me tell you about my last trip to the Statehouse.

I posted this story in another thread last year, but I think it's relevant here too.

I also work in a corporate office and we have a no weapons policy. But my cubicle is literally in a corner at the very end of the 3rd floor. If there were ever to be an active shooter scenario I could be trapped, since the nearest stairwell is about 40 - 50 feet away. So one day I decided to throw my .38 snubbie in my laptop bag and take it inside with me. I was testing the waters more than anything to see if this would be a viable means to carry while at work.

As Murphy's law would have it, I had completely forgotten that was the day I was supposed to ride with a co-worker down to the*Statehouse*in Indy for a meeting. Of course I couldn't very well leave my unattended bag and gun at my desk while I was gone, so I took it with me with the*intention*of leaving it in my co-worker's car while we went inside.

We had some items we were delivering to the Sec. of State's office, so when we arrived downtown at theStatehouse*we parked out front to unload the boxes. I left my bag in the backseat while we unloaded, and after we finished, my co-worker drove the car a few blocks away to park.

I start carrying the packages inside and waited for her to get back. Low and behold, when she arrived she was carrying my laptop bag. She handed it to me and said, "you left this in the car. I didn't want to leave it in plain sight while the car was parked, so I brought it back to you so you can keep an eye on it." Of course at this point we're right up on the security checkpoint and she starts putting her stuff through the x-ray machine, getting ready to walk through the metal detector.

I can't very well turn around and go back to the car. She has the keys and is already through the checkpoint. I did my best to try and casually ask the Sheriff's Deputy if I could leave my bag with him because there was a prohibited item inside. Of course he was like 90 years old and didn't hear me so he yells, "You got what inside your bag?"

I got closer and told him that I had a firearm inside but I didn't want my co-worker to know, and asked him to please give me some guidance. He motions to a state police trooper standing about 20 yards away and waves the trooper over. I try to explain the situation using my "inside voice" with my co-worker now looking back at me wondering what the hold-up is.

The trooper tells me my only option is to take it back to the car, under his supervision. He radios another trooper and requests a lock box be brought down to the security checkpoint. Now I'm standing there with two Indiana State troopers and a Marion County Sheriff's Deputy while my co-worker stares back at me. I have to ask her for her car keys while the trooper pulls my holstered firearm out of the bag and places it in the lock box. He then escorts me out of the building and personally walks me back to the car three blocks away so I can remove it from the lock box, put it back in the laptop bag and lock everything in the trunk.

After all was said and done it took nearly 20 minutes from the time I originally walked into the building with the gun, to the time I came back without it. When I returned, my co-worker was chatting with the other trooper, no doubt trying to figure out what exactly was going on. Now this co-worker isn't exactly my boss, but we work in the same department and she definitely outranks me. When we met up she said something to the effect of, "the trooper told me you had some tools or something in your bag?"*

I told her I had some prohibited items inside and left it at that, but I know she saw the trooper pull the gun out of the bag and put it in the lock box. This happened about three months ago and we haven't spoken about it since.

The moral of the story is, you never know what could happen during the day that could end up exposing your firearm. Best laid plans can go to hell real quick, and often due to circumstances out of your control.*

 

[2A_Tom]

I might just get that that Glock 36 for Swimming, diving, water skiing, and the shower.

 

[foszoe]

Wrigley Field. There's enough booze and disappointment fueled frustration there that guns, knives, forks, and anything else pointy should be outlawed.

Lol, but their season isn't so bad thus year. Might be more true come Sept

 

[Que]

Im with you, no guns in courtrooms.

Why not?

 

[mbills2223]

Wrong place?


In my face

 

[PRasko]

*Patiently awaits gun taped to forehead picture*....

 

[dudley0]

Let me tell you about my last trip to the Statehouse.

I posted this story in another thread last year, but I think it's relevant here too.

I remember reading that.... some people are so helpful.

 

[Whosyer]

In the hands of a chimp. No matter what you think, it's never a good idea to give a gun to a chimp.

 

[2A_Tom]

I havn't seen a post from JG in a while did she die or get the ban hammer.


I have to weigh in and say i can't think of any, foe me, but I was glad they didn't allow the son, (who had handcuffed a witness in a barn and set it on fire) of the drug dealer that my jury found guilty, to carry in the courthouse. they held him in the courtroom until the bailiffs escorted us to our cars and we were gone.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I havn't seen a post from JG in a while did she die or get the ban hammer.

She's still around. She's more active on Facebook now though.

 

[Whosyer]

I havn't seen a post from JG in a while did she die or get the ban hammer.

I do not believe she got the hammer. I seem to recall some kind of controversy, and her saying she was taking a break. It's been several months though.

 

[You'll shoot your eye out]

The no weapons in court decree is just the visible tip of a totalitarian iceberg. It's the first and most visible constitutional right of many to be violated upon entering court. It's completely unconscionable that in a place that only exists to promote and defend the rule of law, all of our rights and freedoms are unilaterally and arbitrarily suspended.........

Can you tell that this is a major pet peeve of mine?

 

[Cameramonkey]

I'm baffled by the logic behind this guy's stance. Who is protecting him while at church? If god's "power" is protecting him at church, surely it would protect him at home as well, right? And in his car, at work.... everywhere he goes.

Not to spin this off topic but this is where the whole religion thing starts to lose ground for me. I know way too many "religious people" who claim things like the above "God will protect us." and then completely ignore every other reality in life. "You just have to have faith." When it comes time to stand on that faith at home or out in public, all the sudden they're all like, "Well, God is busy at the moment so it's up to us to protect ourselves. HE gives us the tools to do so and therefore we must." Uh.... how about those tools while you're visiting one of his houses? Did he tell you, "Don't worry, bruh. I got this?"

I'm all for loving the Lord. But it would be nice if folks would apply logic in the Lord across the board.

I agree. I believe God will protect me, but I still carry life insurance, have multiple fire extinguishers in the house, and of course EDC. Reminds me of my favorite joke.


There is a massive flood. The water starts lapping at the mans front porch and a national guard deuce and a half pulls up. "we are here to evacuate you sir!" The homeowner replies "the lord will protect me." and they drive off.

Fast forward 4 hours and the water is lapping at the gutters. The man is on the roof and a rescue boat pulls up. "we are here to evacuate you sir!" The homeowner replies "the lord will protect me." and they motor off.

Another 4 hours and the water is up to the peak, and the man is now hugging his chimney. "a helicopter hovers over and over the loudspeaker they say "we are here to evacuate you sir!" The homeowner replies "the lord will protect me." and they fly off.

Fast forward to the pearly gates. St Peter is there looking at the man who is absolutely flabbergasted. The man looks at St. Peter and says "I put my absolute faith in God. And look what it got me. Why?"

St. Peter responded "We sent you a truck, an boat, and a helicopter. What more do you want?!?!?!?!"