We need more regulation!

[phrozen5100]

Well folks, we've all seen the slew of shootings recently. As we all knew, this would eventually transpire into stronger anti-gun rhetoric. The media bias here is not obvious at all .

Licensed to kill? Gunmen in killings had permits - Crime & courts- msnbc.com

If only that gunman had been forced to renew his license - that would have surely prevented this!

 

[mikea46996]

Phuck em I'm clinging to my guns and my bible!!!!!!

1 asshat goes loony and kills people and they want our guns, how about the jerkoffs that get drunk and kill entire families in their minivan. Should we outlaw cars too? How about booze with it there would be no drunk driving right?

Wait didn't they try booze once??

 

[samrothstein01]

I think its very interesting that at the end of the article Vogel admits that (paraphrased) .....somehow, someway criminals will find a way to obtain and use guns, regardless of what the law says for abiding citizens because there are too many to keep track of. Isn't that completely contradictory to his "cause"? Laws don't prevent acts of crime, they punish acts of crime.

I also think it would be interesting to see a similar report on a circumstance where everyone in the vicinity of the shooting was also carrying legally....I bet a lot fewer people would have been injured and that this wouldn't happen nearly as often.

Just my ....

(Anyone notice the link to the Elkhart Project at the bottom of the page? I am sure its linked based on IP address, or maybe not, but it was also an interesting perspective focusing on Elkhart and the recession.)

 

[IndyGunworks]

 

[jmiller676]

 

[zlittell]

hmmm your right we should all give up our guns and let the criminals run free reign... hopefully i can get a gnarly light saber to deflect bullets.

or we could give everyone who applies for a license a psycho analysis.

the real solution is give everyone guns... makes people too afraid to try stuff and the people with balls just end up dead.

-zack-

 

[phrozen5100]

Anybody notice how all weapons used in shootings are 'high-power'? These are common calibers: 9mm, .223 and .45.

So, what would a .22 be considered?
Would a .50AE cross the threshold into the 'weapons of mass destruction' category?

 

[MyGlockRocks19]

hmmm your right we should all give up our guns and let the criminals run free reign... hopefully i can get a gnarly light saber to deflect bullets.

or we could give everyone who applies for a license a psycho analysis.

the real solution is give everyone guns... makes people too afraid to try stuff and the people with balls just end up dead.

-zack-

Kinda dovetails with my idea...make the punishment for committing a violent crime so awful that only the insane would attempt it. Shoot someone while involved in a robbery? You're hung on the courthouse steps. Rape someone? You're drawn and quartered (look it up, it sucks).

Whenever I bring this up however, someone is quick to point out that the Constitution prohibits "cruel and unusual punishment". Most of those people have a selective blind spot when it comes to the Bill of Rights, however....they'd rather disarm everyone (or attempt to) than do bad things to bad people.

 

[following2dp]

hopefully i can get a gnarly light saber to deflect bullets.

-zack-

You mean you don't have one already? I thought they were standard mall ninja issue, however I got to keep mine after my 20 year career in special forces.

 

[bigg cheese]

I'm not worried. If it comes down to it, I'll become a kick-ass archer marching around town with explosives a-la-Reign Of Fire.

 

[repair]

Kinda dovetails with my idea...make the punishment for committing a violent crime so awful that only the insane would attempt it. Shoot someone while involved in a robbery? You're hung on the courthouse steps. Rape someone? You're drawn and quartered (look it up, it sucks).

Whenever I bring this up however, someone is quick to point out that the Constitution prohibits "cruel and unusual punishment". Most of those people have a selective blind spot when it comes to the Bill of Rights, however....they'd rather disarm everyone (or attempt to) than do bad things to bad people.

If you start doing it it isn't unusual anymore and hey maybe they would like it so it wouldn't be cruel either...... just a thought.

 

[hemicharger]

I say we ban drugs. Can you believe how many people are killed by drugs every year? I sure hope Nancy Pelosi and friends jump on that bandwagon.

 

[repair]

I say we ban drugs. Can you believe how many people are killed by drugs every year? I sure hope Nancy Pelosi and friends jump on that bandwagon.

Thats a good idea and maybe murder should be outlawed also.... WOW we can solve all of our problems with some simple laws.

GOOD thinking hemicharger for you!

 

[hemicharger]

I like the idea of banning murder. Thanks Repair. What about banning drinking and driving? How many cute fluffy baby seals are killed each year in DUI accidents?

 

[jmo2003bu]

I think its very interesting that at the end of the article Vogel admits that (paraphrased) .....somehow, someway criminals will find a way to obtain and use guns, regardless of what the law says for abiding citizens because there are too many to keep track of. Isn't that completely contradictory to his "cause"? Laws don't prevent acts of crime, they punish acts of crime.

I also think it would be interesting to see a similar report on a circumstance where everyone in the vicinity of the shooting was also carrying legally....I bet a lot fewer people would have been injured and that this wouldn't happen nearly as often.

Just my ....

(Anyone notice the link to the Elkhart Project at the bottom of the page? I am sure its linked based on IP address, or maybe not, but it was also an interesting perspective focusing on Elkhart and the recession.)

Great post! You would only take guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens and leave them even more vulnerable. If you really want to make a good argument, look at Australia. They banned guns and their violent crime rate went through the roof! It just doesn't work.....and, in this case, it's unconstitutional!

 

[jmo2003bu]

Kinda dovetails with my idea...make the punishment for committing a violent crime so awful that only the insane would attempt it. Shoot someone while involved in a robbery? You're hung on the courthouse steps. Rape someone? You're drawn and quartered (look it up, it sucks).

Whenever I bring this up however, someone is quick to point out that the Constitution prohibits "cruel and unusual punishment". Most of those people have a selective blind spot when it comes to the Bill of Rights, however....they'd rather disarm everyone (or attempt to) than do bad things to bad people.

I'll sign that petition!

 

[citizenvain]

hopefully i can get a gnarly light saber to deflect bullets.

You will just burn your eye out....

Seriously, why does anyone need a light saber? All thes light-sabre toting crazies and the NLSA (National Light Saber Association) are just a bunch of militant right wing wackos. NO ONE NEEDS A LIGHT SABER for protection. Only the cops do to protect us.

 

[Ranger Rick]

Did you pick catch the first paragraph saying that the gunmen were legally entitled to fire there weapons! They twist everything.....ignorant of the laws

 

[Dr Falken]

It's interesting that there is a story on the same page about a young woman that was raped on a subway platform in New York. Subway emplyees saw what was happening, pushed their emergency call buttons "but did not help" according to MSNBC. The media confuses me, you want us to depend on authorities to protect us/take away the right to self defense, but on the other hand ask why subway employees didn't get involved? Well they did what they were supposed to do, call the police and not get involved. Isn't that what we all are supposed to do, let the authorities protect us and take care of us. What if that rapist was armed...what if the young woman was armed?

 

[Nakatomi]

Isn't murder illegal? And if nutboy didn't have a gun, he couldn't just ram his car through the building? McVey killed how many with fertilizer? Is fertilizer a WMD now? lol