Understanding Consensual LE Encounters

[FireBirdDS]

I think it comes with a billy club instead of a gun though

Along with a mandatory "Stop in the name of the law!!"

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

Did you read the sentence directly above that which you quoted? I'm not trying to bash LEOs, just exlain my original statement as to why a Criminal Procedure class would further an "us-versus-them" attitude.

It only furthers the attitude if you let it.

 

[yournamehere]

Without starting more issues, what do the LEO's do when they ask a permit holder in a traffic stop if they have a firearm and the driver tells them its non of their business?

 

[Roadie]

Without starting more issues, what do the LEO's do when they ask a permit holder in a traffic stop if they have a firearm and the driver tells them its non of their business?

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

Without starting more issues, what do the LEO's do when they ask a permit holder in a traffic stop if they have a firearm and the driver tells them its non of their business?

Its not a permit, its an LTCH.

 

[yournamehere]

Its not a permit, its an LTCH.

Did I make any typos as well. I have been carrying a gun for over 30 years. Permit/ LTCH I just roll my eyes when people insist on making an issue out of a simple term of nomenclature. Yes you can write a thousand words on the hair splitting but for general discussions on the subject most of us interchange the terms but do understand.

 

[public servant]

Did I make any typos as well. I have been carrying a gun for over 30 years. Permit/ LTCH I just roll my eyes when people insist on making an issue out of a simple term of nomenclature. Yes you can write a thousand words on the hair splitting but for general discussions on the subject most of us interchange the terms but do understand.

I believe Frank was razzing you a bit. But believe me, on INGO, permit and LTCH are NOT interchangeable. Someone will be along shortly to explain why.

 

[Bunnykid68]

I believe Frank was razzing you a bit. But believe me, on INGO, permit and LTCH are NOT interchangeable. Someone will be along shortly to explain why.

It is because it clearly says License To Carry a Handgun

 

[Rookie]

It is because it clearly says License To Carry a Handgun

Yeah, duh!

 

[mydoghasfleas]

Did I make any typos as well. I have been carrying a gun for over 30 years. Permit/ LTCH I just roll my eyes when people insist on making an issue out of a simple term of nomenclature. Yes you can write a thousand words on the hair splitting but for general discussions on the subject most of us interchange the terms but do understand.

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[MikeDVB]

Most of us working stiffs are only "bothering" those who we suspect are doing dirty. 98% of the rest of the community will have no negative interaction with us EVER.

The problem is - how does one know whether your 'casual' interaction is exactly that, or if you really suspect something and you're not trying to let-on. The sheer fact that it's only your suspicion and, honestly, you probably don't have to reveal said suspicion unless challenged - makes all interactions potentially questionable.

tinfoil hat

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

Did I make any typos as well. I have been carrying a gun for over 30 years. Permit/ LTCH I just roll my eyes when people insist on making an issue out of a simple term of nomenclature. Yes you can write a thousand words on the hair splitting but for general discussions on the subject most of us interchange the terms but do understand.

Stick around awhile and you'll probably have a good idea when I'm being sarcastic. Which is most of the time so its pretty obvious.

To answer your question I don't routinely ask drivers if they are armed. If I see a firearm or catch a sight of the pink paper when someone is giving me their DL I tell them if they don't touch their piece I won't touch my piece. It has so far worked out well for everyone involved.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

The problem is - how does one know whether your 'casual' interaction is exactly that, or if you really suspect something and you're not trying to let-on. The sheer fact that it's only your suspicion and, honestly, you probably don't have to reveal said suspicion unless challenged - makes all interactions potentially questionable.

tinfoil hat

I can't speak for the otherJBTs on INGO, but if I suspect something is up you'll know. I may beat the innocent, but I don't beat around the bush.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I can't speak for the otherJBTs on INGO, but if I suspect something is up you'll know. I may beat the innocent, but I don't beat around the bush.

That sounds reasonable. After all, what did the bush ever do to you?

 

[public servant]

After all, what did the bush ever do to you?

He de-valued my pension by half.

 

[IndyDave1776]

He de-valued my pension by half.

I assumed that Frank was referring to a plant.

 

[MikeDVB]

I assumed that Frank was referring to a plant.

Couldn't both apply?

 

[Rookie]

That sounds reasonable. After all, what did the bush ever do to you?

Gave me crabs....

 

[IndyDave1776]

Couldn't both apply?

He used a small 'b'.

 

[public servant]

Gave me crabs....

That's why I prefer the ones without the foliage. But only ones old enough to defoliate. (added 'cuz someone would go there)

I assumed that Frank was referring to a plant.

I know. But I'm still pissed off about it.

Gave me crabs....

Oh...and reported.