Trump on Suppressors: “I don’t like them at all.”

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  • Ziggidy

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    Seriously. Trump is literally peeling away gun rights and everyone is still defending him. Open your eyes he is and always has been a liar. He does not stand up for gun owners in practice or principal. his silver tongue speeches has obviously put a spell on anyone who thinks he stands for the 2nd. His executive actions show a pure anti 2a making every move to take your freedoms. Show me evidence of him being pro gun rights.

    I recently saw this posted (somewhere): I would hope you do fall into the category of showing support by not voting:

    An online friend who must remain anonymous has been musing about what those ostensible conservatives who despise President Trump must now approve of, if they seek to defeat his re-election bid, and thereby hand the presidency to the Democrats’ nominee.

    This is the implicit set of values and goals that they must now embrace:

    1) Abortion on demand is a good thing;
    2) Infanticide is a good thing;
    3) Letting Iran get a nuclear bomb is a good thing;
    4) Higher tax rates are a good thing;
    5) More regulation on businesses, big and small, is a good thing;
    6) Restricting gas, oil and coal exploration and extraction is a good thing;
    7) Open borders is a good thing;
    8) China stealing our intellectual property is a good thing;
    9) Turning over a significant amount of our uranium supply to Russia is a good thing;
    10) Turning our back on Israel is a good thing;
    11) Socialization of our health care is a good thing;
    12) Repealing the religious protections of the First Amendment is a good thing;
    13) Repealing the speech protections of the First Amendment is a good thing,
    14) Repealing the assembly protections of the First Amendment'
    15) Repealing the Second Amendment is a good thing.
     

    Punkinhead

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    Holy ****!
    Did you guys really want Hillary to win that badly?.
    That false choice between two New York liberals was created by low information, reality TV watching liberals who voted for him in the primaries. He supported President Clinton's assault weapons ban, he was a Democrat for decades, and he financially supported Hillary's Senate campaign. Every single republican that ran against him in the primary was more conservative.
     

    Ggreen

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    Who did you vote for?

    Who would you rather see as President taking away your rights?

    Do you actually own and shoot guns while posting on a gun forum?

    I don't believe it's the president's job to take rights. Trumps entire 2a platform was a lie. I wont vote for his **** a 2nd time.

    As far as do I shoot and own guns.. more than most people on this forum.

    Defending Trumps gun policies on a gun site is as dumb as voting him in again. Any person that infringes on or rights should be removed from office.
     

    Ziggidy

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    Any person that infringes on or rights should be removed from office.

    Am I correct in believing you will vote for a socialist before voting for Trump?

    Am I correct in believing you may not vote knowing very well that a "no vote" is actually helping elect a socialist into office?

    Do you understand the consequences if the socialists win control?
     

    Ggreen

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    Am I correct in believing you will vote for a socialist before voting for Trump?

    Am I correct in believing you may not vote knowing very well that a "no vote" is actually helping elect a socialist into office?

    Do you understand the consequences if the socialists win control?

    I won't vote for a gun controller why the f would I vote for a socialist? Anyone who votes for Trump votes for his anti gun policies. First time, shame on his lies.. Round 2 shame on your ignorance.
     

    d.kaufman

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    Seriously. Trump is literally peeling away gun rights and everyone is still defending him. Open your eyes he is and always has been a liar. He does not stand up for gun owners in practice or principal. his silver tongue speeches has obviously put a spell on anyone who thinks he stands for the 2nd. His executive actions show a pure anti 2a making every move to take your freedoms. Show me evidence of him being pro gun rights.

    What executive actions has he taken on gun control? While im not happy about the bumpstock ban all he did was advise the Atf to review them, he didnt sign an executive order banning them, at least to my knowledge. What executive order has he signed that is anti 2nd amendment? Enquiring minds would like to know.

    I do know he signed an eo overturning some of Obummers gun control laws dealing with mental illness, but thats all i can find
     

    Ggreen

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    What executive actions has he taken on gun control? While im not happy about the bumpstock ban all he did was advise the Atf to review them, he didnt sign an executive order banning them, at least to my knowledge. What executive order has he signed that is anti 2nd amendment? Enquiring minds would like to know.

    I do know he signed an eo overturning some of Obummers gun control laws dealing with mental illness, but thats all i can find

    Executive action not order. It was his direct action that lead to bumpstock confiscation without amnesty or compensation. No Dem has ever made so brazen a decision, people would have never allowed it. Trump does it and everyone makes excuses how he is still a good 2a guy.
     

    Dead Duck

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    Executive action not order. It was his direct action that lead to bumpstock confiscation without amnesty or compensation. No Dem has ever made so brazen a decision, people would have never allowed it. Trump does it and everyone makes excuses how he is still a good 2a guy.

    I totally agree with you.
    Hillary would have been a better choice. She would have never done anything against our 2nd Amendment. Never-Ever... :n00b:

    I am so ashamed for being a Trumper. Can you ever forgive me?
     

    ArcadiaGP

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    When every disagreement here devolves into "So you support socialists/hillary/etc"... there's no actual conversation going on.

    Disagreement and criticism does not equate to support of the opposite. Good lord feels like 2016 here again.
     

    Dead Duck

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    When every disagreement here devolves into "So you support socialists/hillary/etc"... there's no actual conversation going on.

    Disagreement and criticism does not equate to support of the opposite. Good lord feels like 2016 here again.

    Oh you just wait.
    People are going to start throwing their votes away again. :):
     

    Kutnupe14

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    I totally agree with you.
    Hillary would have been a better choice. She would have never done anything against our 2nd Amendment. Never-Ever... :n00b:

    I am so ashamed for being a Trumper. Can you ever forgive me?

    No one is saying that Clinton wouldn't have gone after the 2A. I'm fairly certain she would have, just like Obama. However, as with the function of opposing parties, she would've been stopped dead in her tracks by the GOP. The same GOP that is reluctant to do the same to the current president, because it's "their guy."
    There's no way you could ever convince me, that if Clinton had gone after bumpstocks, there would've not been a chorus of GOP voices expressing their outrage. With Trump however, it was just crickets.
     

    snorko

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    No one is saying that Clinton wouldn't have gone after the 2A. I'm fairly certain she would have, just like Obama. However, as with the function of opposing parties, she would've been stopped dead in her tracks by the GOP. The same GOP that is reluctant to do the same to the current president, because it's "their guy."
    There's no way you could ever convince me, that if Clinton had gone after bumpstocks, there would've not been a chorus of GOP voices expressing their outrage. With Trump however, it was just crickets.


    And let's keep in mind, if Clinton had won in 2016, Republicans may likely have kept the house.
     

    ArcadiaGP

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    Oh you just wait.
    People are going to start throwing their votes away again. :):

    I'd bet you that there are very few people here that didn't vote for Trump. We're aware that he was absolutely the lesser of two evils. Aside from general protest, why wouldn't you vote for that? Obviously, given the opponent... Clinton doesn't deserve to be President.

    So when I see people here going after long-time members, trying to equate them to Clinton-voters/Socialists/etc... it seems lazy. We're all probably close to being on the same page. We're all allowed to have some nuance when it comes to criticizing our guy. He's not infallible. When he does bad, we can point it out... and when he does good, we can also point that out.
     

    Expat

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    There has been nothing done that needed congressional approval. So our valiant Repubs wouldn’t have stood up and stopped the other team either. They may have stomped their foot and whined more, but that would have been it. That is why crap like this ATF rule should be unconstitutional.
     

    two70

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    There has been nothing done that needed congressional approval. So our valiant Repubs wouldn’t have stood up and stopped the other team either. They may have stomped their foot and whined more, but that would have been it. That is why crap like this ATF rule should be unconstitutional.

    Well there's that and then there is the fact that the supposedly valiant Republicans rarely manage to stop anything. They didn't stop Obamacare when the majority of the country was against it. They didn't have the fortitude to even attempt to hold Obama's administration accountable for their many misdeeds. Yet these same Republicans were somehow going to find a spine and stop Hillary from getting gun control legislation passed. Just like they stopped Slick Willie's Assault Weapon ban. What kind of delusional fantasy is that?
     

    Ziggidy

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    What executive actions has he taken on gun control? While im not happy about the bumpstock ban all he did was advise the Atf to review them, he didnt sign an executive order banning them, at least to my knowledge. What executive order has he signed that is anti 2nd amendment? Enquiring minds would like to know.

    I do know he signed an eo overturning some of Obummers gun control laws dealing with mental illness, but thats all i can find

    So, anyone who votes for trump again is, according to you, ignorant?


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