Allow me to introduce Warren Harding and Jimmy Carter if you are looking for incompetent.
That's fair... but I can't help but think if Trump was reading this, he'd be about to say "...hold my beer, errr Diet Coke"
Allow me to introduce Warren Harding and Jimmy Carter if you are looking for incompetent.
Might as well finish the sentence, shall we? ...... He'd be handing that beer, errr Diet Coke to his supporters whilst they are cheering him on.That's fair... but I can't help but think if Trump was reading this, he'd be about to say "...hold my beer, errr Diet Coke"
I've said it Before. MINES! Post signed well before they get to them. If some dumb mother****er wants to cross into that then let them try.Well, if he did say that, I disagree. I disagree with any type of open border, but I still maintain that opposing a wall does not default to wanting open borders. As distasteful as it is to think, I'd prefer a militarized border over a stupid wall.
But what if I believe that building a wall won't do anything significant to fix the border?
There are several easier, less expensive, and more effective options to correct the problems in our immigration system.
Who said they don't want to fix the border? What I'm hearing is that people don't want a stupid monument to Trump wall that is of dubious effectiveness.
No, I'm not convinced we need a physical barrier from coast to coast.
But, physical barriers do work as the FIRST layer in an overall secure border plan.
They do slow down the great majority of people to a more manageable level, which gives border patrol more time to respond.
Physical barriers combined with technology would work the best.
And by doing a much better job of forcing people to use legal ports of entry.
Do you think that I'm a miracle worker? There are too many beneficiaries of the current system to expect any change to pass.
To be transparent, I am basically a supporter of an open border. I realize that isn't popular on INGO, but it is what I think is best.
But if you really want to cut down on immigration that violates the law, here's what I see as the easiest solution: Anyone who employs a worker who is not legally authorized to work in the US is to be fined the equivalent of 10 years of back taxes for that person--federal, state, Social Security, the whole thing. If the risk/reward calculation shifts, people's behavior will shift, too.
Building a wall is just a dumb solution.
I'd like someone to tell me who wants open borders first.
Actions speak louder than words.
It's been over 30 years, and yet no SERIOUS effort has been made to secure the border.
You prove my point.
You're so pre-occupied with how much you hate Trump, that you would put the security of our country second.
And NO, I didn't vote for Trump (or Hillary).
But I can say if Hillary had been elected President, and proposed the same plan as Trump, i would support it too.
Even though I can't stand her.
I think Trump is well more of an immediate danger to our country than illegal immigrants (no purple).
Bingo! Too many libtards and even people claiming to be conservative don't see the power in deficit spending on ineffective symbols. Even when the Republicans controlled both houses for two years they refused to see the wisdom of spending borrowed money on something that wouldn't slow immigration. We seem to have forgotten the lessons that Ronald Reagan taught us over 30 years ago - borrowing billions and spending it on a symbol WORKS! We all knew Star Wars wouldn't work and 35 years later we still don't have a working space based missile defense system, but he bankrupted the Soviet Union and pulled together the rubes to support our conservative causes. The Soviets were too dumb to see that the system wouldn't work just like the Mexicans are too dumb to use shovels or ladders to go under or over a wall. The important thing is the symbolism that a wall will represent. It's time to do away with "fiscal conservatism" and start spending money borrowed from China on symbols that will firm up our base. Why are so many of our fellow conservatives completely blind to the wisdom in the saying, "the Democrats deficit spent, so we should too."?The way we spend money - a wall just isn't that big of a deal. Probably not worth the cost, but the effectiveness is guaranteed higher than zero and I'm sure we've spent more money on stuff less important.
You give him a lot of credit for signing bills that congress passed, pontificating, and doing the same thing his predecessors tried and failed.How dare Trump improve our economy, attempt to secure our borders, lower our taxes, eliminate the health insurance mandate, attempt to un-nuke N. Korea and in general **** off the left.
You're right, Orange man is dangerous...
Jailing the idiots who hire them would work 1000x better.
I think Trump is well more of an immediate danger to our country than illegal immigrants (no purple).
But if the border is "open", then there would be no such thing as "immigration that violates the law". Hey, now that I think about it, maybe we should just get rid of all laws. The crime rate would drop to zero overnight! I mean, without laws, there is no crime. Brilliant!
I'm in favor of something pretty close to open borders, but it has to be paired with a significant cutback in our current socialism. Being physically in the US should guarantee you opportunity: nothing more and nothing less. If you can afford to stay here, then it's because you are adding to the economy and society, and I'm happy to have you.
I've spent a lot of time in Latin America, both Central and South. In many areas, opportunity simply doesn't exist. Something like subsistence farming is the only option. That sucks.
I'm in favor of people being rewarded more for what they do than for where they happen to have been born.
And it is quite disingenuous to pretend that the problems in Central America are 100% the fault of the people there are 0% the fault of US policy. I mean, that giant caravan of migrant refugees that so many here think is a national emergency are only refugees at all because the Obama administration--and in particular Secretary of State Clinton--played an essential role in the success of the military coup in Honduras. Without our foreign policy, they would have been happy to stay in Honduras. I believe that what our elected officials did in the name of the United States was evil, and so yeah, I think that we might probably should feel some responsibility for their current situation.
In your views, how is the president a danger to the country?