Bottom line, LEOs are human with the same failings as the rest of us. Time to quit bashing and whining and move on with your life.
The obvious exception is when I'm filing a police report as a victim.
if their only "job" is to find something your doing wrong and prosecute you for it, why would you do that? What seems more obvious is that you do whatever you can to be a douchebag until you need something from law enforcement, then you can make an exception for yourself. Why not let the free market sort it out
Because their job is to prosecute the person whom I am reporting, i.e. a thief. And if that person had a brain in their head, they would respond to the LEOs exactly as I do.
I was unaware exercising my constituional rights makes me a douchebag though. I'm not offensive nor aggressive to the LEOs. I politely decline the interaction and move on with my day.
Cops? I don't dislike them, but I'll not interact with them unless I am required to.
The Supreme Court itself has said a LEO is not obligated to protect me. So, the only function of a LEO is to find something I'm doing wrong. I simply don't give them the satisfaction.
There are only 2 things I ever say to a police officer.
1) I do not consent to searches
2) Am I being detained or am I free to go
I answer every question with one of those 2 answers. Even something as simple as "Hey, you have the time?". I don't mean to be a jerk, but when your job is to find something that I'm doing illegal and then prosecute me for it, you'll excuse me for not giving you any opportunity at all.
The obvious exception is when I'm filing a police report as a victim. And even then I meet them at the station and do not allow them onto my property.
if you treated non-leo folks with this logic, that would be the very definition of douchebag.
if you think the job of le is simply to "prosecute" offenders then you are simply uneducated and wrong. wanting to stay that way adds another layer to douchiness IMHO.
I'm sure you are all very nice guys and gals. I've met a lot of officers that seemed really cool. I certainly don't give LEOs the cold shoulder out of spite. But when it comes down to it, you can arrest me. Whether it's for something I admitted doing or something you saw yourself.
There's countless laws on the books. Lawyers makes tons of cash studying these laws. I could not hope to understand the penal code and all it entails. I prefer to play it safe and not risk incriminating myself.
I saw it happen with my father when I was a kid. We were fishing in Virginia on vacation. Caught a crap ton of a type of fish we hadn't seen before. So, we were having a big feast when a LEO for the park came over. We talked to him, having a good conversation until he noticed the fish we were gutting. Turns out those fish were on a temporary "endangered" list because it was their spawning season and I guess they were in low population. My old man got fined $250 per fish times 32 fish. That's stuck in my head my entire life.
If we would have simply dismissed the officer and chosen to not engage him, it wouldn't have happened.
Was curious on some of INGOs experiences and what youd like to see improved upon...
We should never forget that LEOs are just like all of us, human beings.
so do you accept any responsibility for the fish incident or do you believe it was all the officer's fault?
Frank isn't, and I do wonder about VUPDblue sometimes.
In that case, what type of space aliens to you suppose they are? They are a little small for Klingons or Wookies.