The real answer on Glock vs M&P

[Birds Away]

The police establishment is now properly devoted to the Glock, and this seems to be a good choice. The Glock is a difficult piece to shoot well, and its safety problem has been solved by issuing it with a trigger that only a gorilla would love, but it has been generally admitted that the police today cannot be trained to shoot well - not so much because of time and ammunition expenditures, but because of motivation. A man will do well only at things he enjoys doing, and today's police departments are reluctant to hire a recruit who enjoys shooting. Thus the Glock's "shootability" is irrelevant. The piece is relatively cheap, it is usually reliable, and the company's service policies are outstanding.​

- Jeff Cooper, Cooper Commentaries, Volume V, Number 11.

 

[lovemachine]

Interesting.

 

[VERT]

The police establishment is now properly devoted to the Glock, and this seems to be a good choice. The Glock is a difficult piece to shoot well, and its safety problem has been solved by issuing it with a trigger that only a gorilla would love, but it has been generally admitted that the police today cannot be trained to shoot well - not so much because of time and ammunition expenditures, but because of motivation. A man will do well only at things he enjoys doing, and today's police departments are reluctant to hire a recruit who enjoys shooting. Thus the Glock's "shootability" is irrelevant. The piece is relatively cheap, it is usually reliable, and the company's service policies are outstanding.​

- Jeff Cooper, Cooper Commentaries, Volume V, Number 11.

I thought maybe this should be in purple until I saw the Col. Cooper quotation. From his perspective this is probably a very accurate statement. I see no hate for Glock other then he felt they were hard to shoot well. Compared to a heavy 1911 all tuned up with a good trigger the Glock is hard to shoot. Whether a gun or shooter is accurate is very subjective and what is acceptable differs widely.

 

[Fordtough25]

The police establishment is now properly devoted to the Glock, and this seems to be a good choice. The Glock is a difficult piece to shoot well, and its safety problem has been solved by issuing it with a trigger that only a gorilla would love, but it has been generally admitted that the police today cannot be trained to shoot well - not so much because of time and ammunition expenditures, but because of motivation. A man will do well only at things he enjoys doing, and today's police departments are reluctant to hire a recruit who enjoys shooting. Thus the Glock's "shootability" is irrelevant. The piece is relatively cheap, it is usually reliable, and the company's service policies are outstanding.​

- Jeff Cooper, Cooper Commentaries, Volume V, Number 11.

Thanks for the article! The last part kinda seems like he thought it was an ok pistol for the most part. I actually like Glock triggers from the factory, call me crazy. I don't blame Col Cooper though, he grew up with 1911's and enjoyed them. Nothing wrong with that whatsoever, and when it boils down to it 8+1 is more than enough most of the time.

 

[Birds Away]

Sorry to derail you guys' thread. I have nothing against the Glock or M&Ps. They are what they are.