The black helicopter crowd is really upset.

[MooreALX]

Biden claiming NRA is spreading disinformation.
Biden: 'The Black Helicopter Crowd is Really Upset' | Joe Biden | Fox Nation

I'll have to admit, if I didn't know better, he actually sounds somewhat logical. All the pro-gun people in the comments sound like idiots, I was hoping that some of y'all had more intelligent rebuttals.

 

[cobber]

 

[cbhausen]

Angry, isn't he? Go "fire two blasts", Joe. You'll feel better in no time.

 

[johnny45]

And the brain dead lay in rest.

 

[Cldedhnds]

I think once a week I am going to go into a gun shop, pick out something to buy, have a background check run, then not buy anything. Maybe 30 -40 times a year. Be interesting to see if I show up on a list anywhere since no records are kept......

 

[cobber]

All the pro-gun people in the comments sound like idiots, I was hoping that some of y'all had more intelligent rebuttals.

Now which team are you playing for, BTW?

 

[Project972]

thats a good idea.

 

[Bert]

if no records are kept , how do they know that you've bought more than 5 in a week ? i believe that was the number . Don't border states have to report multi purchaces ? If the records are destroyed after 24 hrs then how are they tracking these multi gun perchaces ?

 

[KLB]

All he does is describe how things work now. The current system would not be able to do what they are proposing.

How will they know if someone transfers a gun to someone without a check if they do not know who the gun is supposed to belong to?

Why does he think that criminals would bother to run a check when they sell and buy guns? I imagine most of the people selling guns to criminals now know what they are breaking existing laws already, so a new law isn't going to stop them.

 

[funeralweb]

Better yet, drive to multiple different shops each week and do it. "Wander Indiana" as they used to say.

I think once a week I am going to go into a gun shop, pick out something to buy, have a background check run, then not buy anything. Maybe 30 -40 times a year. Be interesting to see if I show up on a list anywhere since no records are kept......

 

[MooreALX]

Now which team are you playing for, BTW?

I am completely pro-gun-rights, and against new background checks. I do know that all the people I work with would completely agree with Biden in this instance, but all of the other pro-gun-rights people that I saw commenting, were only commenting on Biden's previous idiotic comments, nothing to do with this.

 

[CarmelHP]

Now which team are you playing for, BTW?

I thought it was obvious he was on Uncle Joe's squad.

 

[1$Chuck]

Oh, well I guess we'll just trust the FBI to destroy that evidence. I feel better now.

 

[fraige1987]

I could see for those that were on the fence about this stuff how that would make sense. But according to the government im some right wing gun nut/hillbilly. Oh well ill keep my guns and be happy with "the black helicopter crowd"

 

[ModernGunner]

C'mon guys, the OP was just making a belated 'April Fool's' joke.

EVERYBODY already knows "Double-Barrel Biden' is as screwy as a $3 bill.

Even the hardcore leftie Democrats know not to listen to "Shotgun Joe"!

 

[Cldedhnds]

Better yet, drive to multiple different shops each week and do it. "Wander Indiana" as they used to say.

Got a feeling that a couple a checks per week really would bring some black copters and guys on ropes swinging through my windows!!

 

[NathanJefferson]

Oh, well I guess we'll just trust the FBI to destroy that evidence. I feel better now.

Especially since on their own website they state they share the data with i think 7 different agencies and then leave out the part that ONLY the FBI is required to destroy the data. In the next sentence they completely forget about the 7 other databases your details have just been fed into...

 

[MooreALX]

Especially since on their own website they state they share the data with i think 7 different agencies and then leave out the part that ONLY the FBI is required to destroy the data. In the next sentence they completely forget about the 7 other databases your details have just been fed into...

Do you know where that is documented?

 

[NathanJefferson]

Do you know where that is documented?

It looks a little different than I remember but see below in Red. Or maybe I'm remembering them talking about it in one of their videos.

So these questions remain:

• what agencies are allowed access to it, I think there were about a handful listed.
• Is only the NICS department really required to destroy the data (which many have access to)
• Do you really believe that they are destroying this data? It's some obscure subset of an equally obscure piece of legislation and you expect those who don't understand SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED to understand it?

FBI — Fact Sheet

Privacy and Security of NICS Information
The privacy and security of the information in the NICS is of great importance. In October 1998, the Attorney General published regulations on the privacy and security of NICS information, including the proper and official use of this information. These regulations are available on the NICS website. Data stored in the NICS is documented federal data and access to that information is restricted to agencies authorized by the FBI. Extensive measures are taken to ensure the security and integrity of the system information and agency use. The NICS is not to be used to establish a federal firearm registry; information about an inquiry resulting in an allowed transfer is destroyed in accordance with NICS regulations. Current destruction of NICS records became effective when a final rule was published by the Department of Justice in The Federal Register, outlining the following changes. Per Title 28, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 25.9(b)(1), (2), and (3), the NICS Section must destroy all identifying information on allowed transactions prior to the start of the next NICS operational day. If a potential purchaser is delayed or denied a firearm and successfully appeals the decision, the NICS Section cannot retain a record of the overturned appeal. If the record is not able to be updated, the purchaser continues to be denied or delayed, and if that individual appeals the decision, the documentation must be resubmitted on every subsequent purchase. For this reason, the Voluntary Appeal File (VAF) has been established. This process permits applicants to request that the NICS maintain information about themselves in the VAF to prevent future denials or extended delays of a firearm transfer. (See VAF Section below.)

 

[calcot7]

Oh, well I guess we'll just trust the FBI to destroy that evidence. I feel better now.

The FBI probably does destroy the information after 24hrs. That gives the ATF plenty of time to copy it first.