It was in Knoxville. I lived there over ten years ago. There were folks whom I used to kayak with that attended that church. I didn't recognize the name of the guy who received the fatal shot but am waiting for the full list to be released.
Bloody psycho. And people ask me why I feel the need to carry a gun!
I went to grad school with their pastor. We ate at his home and celebrated when his first book was published. After graduating we lost track of him and his family.
I hope he is fine and send prayers to his family & flock.
First reports have the attacker as a stranger to their church. And my buddy was away at the time, he is back now.
As for carry at a UU church. It is not exactly the demographic.
Yeah... the news says he was there to "kill Liberals".They have a tendency toward being pretty far left.
Yeah... the news says he was there to "kill Liberals".
I wonder if he was a member of that nut-case church behind all the protests at fallen soldier's funerals??? :rolleyesedit:
You're talking about Westboro Baptist and no, they wouldn't be involved. They are very careful that everything they do is 100% within the law.
Yeah... the news says he was there to "kill Liberals".
I wonder if he was a member of that nut-case church behind all the protests at fallen soldier's funerals??? :rolleyesedit:
Everybody, and everything is a protected class now.Some of the media are calling it a "Hate Crime" since Liberals were targeted. I didn't know that Liberals had become a protected legal class :rolleyesedit:
I didn't know that Liberals had become a protected legal class :rolleyesedit:
As much as the criminal deserves the utmost punishment, it won't bring the dead back, and it won't erase what anyone there saw that day. As long as he's prevented from ever doing anything remotely similar to this ever again, I'm satisfied. I really worry when people want to make exceptions that this crime is so horrific, or that person was whatever, so therefore we need to abandon the principle that we are a nation of law, not of men. The law must apply equally to all or it actually applies to none, and I don't think any of us want that.I think I see what you are trying to say and I don't disagree. A crime against another human is, in my eyes, a crime. No other status, class or protection need be attached.
However, as defined by Federal Public Law 101-275 Hate Crimes are [FONT=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]"crimes that manifest evidence of prejudice based on race, religion, sexual orientation, or ethnicity, including where appropriate the crimes of murder, non-negligent manslaughter, forcible rape, aggravated assault, simple assault, intimidation, arson, and destruction, damage or vandalism of property." It means they can attach an extra measure of penalty under that classification.[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]If this piece of crap can get extra time in prison, or consideration for the death penalty, as a result of it also technically being a "Hate Crime" since he shot up a church, I'm all for it in this case. Use the existing law to remove as much possibility for parole as possible.[/FONT]