Agreed. He walks if I'm on the jury. Crime seems to increase as punishment decreases. Go figure. Criminals need some fear in their lives.Would anyone here convict if on the jury?
Criminals need to learn that their way of life isn't worth the risk.
And the jury selection process will ask the favorite color. You know, to weed out any 2A, conservative supporters.I think he would have been ok until the guy hit the ground. Those last few shots while he laid there might get him some time. I am sure his adrenaline was going and he just wanted to make sure he stayed down.
Personally, if on a jury, I would let him walk.
What did HE see? What did HE perceive? Given the same exact facts and circumstances known to the citizen at the time of the shots, would a reasonable person come to the same conclusions? We get the benefit of of a nice camera view. The citizen (and the rest of us for that matter) only has a couple of degrees of angle for focus (arm outstretched in front of your face and put your thumb up. That is about as wide a field a view your eyes can focus on, the rest is peripheral). Now add stress and his eyes could have easily focused on a small area of the suspect that could appear to still be moving.I think he would have been ok until the guy hit the ground. Those last few shots while he laid there might get him some time. I am sure his adrenaline was going and he just wanted to make sure he stayed down.
Personally, if on a jury, I would let him walk.
I can tell you that if that was a police officer doing that (maybe off-duty), indictments would be certain.The new Twitter definitely seems more hard line. LOTS of support for the shooter and not much for HPD.
Maybe not the way I would have liked for it to play out, but meh. Dude made his choice and discovered the consequences. Not a single person that wasn't robbing a restaurant took a round from ol boy. Weird how that works.
I can generally agree with this but see below.What did HE see? What did HE perceive? Given the same exact facts and circumstances known to the citizen at the time of the shots, would a reasonable person come to the same conclusions? We get the benefit of of a nice camera view. The citizen (and the rest of us for that matter) only has a couple of degrees of angle for focus (arm outstretched in front of your face and put your thumb up. That is about as wide a field a view your eyes can focus on, the rest is peripheral). Now add stress and his eyes could have easily focused on a small area of the suspect that could appear to still be moving.
The shooter had picked up the robbers (fake) gun prior to the last shot. IMO first 4 shots completely justified, next 4 maybe a bit iffy, last one... I'm thinking if they find out who he is that last "good clean finishing shot" may get him in a tad bit of trouble.“I don’t know how to detain someone. He came in waving a gun at everyone. I shot him. He moved, and since the firearm was still in reach I shot again to eliminate the threat of harm to myself and others.”
Maybe?
Perhaps. It will come down to the details of the shooter's statement. Hell, did he even realize he picked the gun up?The shooter had picked up the robbers (fake) gun prior to the last shot. IMO first 4 shots completely justified, next 4 maybe a bit iffy, last one... I'm thinking if they find out who he is that last "good clean finishing shot" may get him in a tad bit of trouble.