Subcompact 1911s Just don't work well....

[Titanium_Frost]

Something tells me that the training would be rigged in favor of his prejudices.

Bring it on. I'll video my dirty little Kimber in two weeks when I shoot the classifier for IDPA. I'll throw it in the lake in between rounds on fishing line and drag the poor thing back in through the muck.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

I sent Rob an email saying that I want to accept his challenge.

 

[LeeStreet]

Darn, I was just about ready to buy a Springfield Armory Micro Compact.

 

[SideArmed]

I sent Rob an email saying that I want to accept his challenge.

Very Interested in hearing his reply.

 

[dom1104]

My experiance with sub-compact 1911s is that when I am ROing people who are shooting them, they jam all the time. MULTIPLE times per match.

When I am not ROing, I see people shoot them the entire day without issue.

So..... I dont know what that means.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

If I cleared a malfunction like that, Clint Smith would teleport through the air and beat me with two canes.

Mixed bag: While I've never seen a compact 1911 make it through a class, I've seen plenty of other pistols go TU, including a Les Baer TRS that blew up in my hands.

If the Space Shuttle can go up like a bottle rocket . . .

 

[Titanium_Frost]

If I cleared a malfunction like that, Clint Smith would teleport through the air and beat me with two canes.

My thought exactly.

 

[repeter1977]

As stated on here, and I have said before. Unless you are in combat, what do you really really need the high round count for? I mean, in the US, while you are carrying, are you REALLY going to run into a scenario that you will shoot 500 rounds without cleaning? Matter of fact, how many people do you know that even have 500 rounds at a time, loaded and ready to go? Oh, thats right, you might have a couple mags and the boxes in the back. So, the bad guy will let you go back, and reload the mags, and let you know how many you will need for the up coming shoot out? Yep, totally. Will a gun fail? Yes, any gun when ran hard enough will fail, no matter what brand or type it is. It is a machine and any machine will break when pushed beyond its limits, or purposes.
As another person stated, you should be using your pistol to fight to get to your rifle (Nice quote by Jeff Cooper, by the way). Well, you should be using a subcompact to fight to either full sized pistol or because your full sized pistol went down.

 

[Hookeye]

There will never be a reliable mini 1911 until Taurus makes it.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

As stated on here, and I have said before. Unless you are in combat, what do you really really need the high round count for? I mean, in the US, while you are carrying, are you REALLY going to run into a scenario that you will shoot 500 rounds without cleaning? Matter of fact, how many people do you know that even have 500 rounds at a time, loaded and ready to go? Oh, thats right, you might have a couple mags and the boxes in the back. So, the bad guy will let you go back, and reload the mags, and let you know how many you will need for the up coming shoot out? Yep, totally. Will a gun fail? Yes, any gun when ran hard enough will fail, no matter what brand or type it is. It is a machine and any machine will break when pushed beyond its limits, or purposes.
As another person stated, you should be using your pistol to fight to get to your rifle (Nice quote by Jeff Cooper, by the way). Well, you should be using a subcompact to fight to either full sized pistol or because your full sized pistol went down.

Because you need to push your skills and equipment 200% past were you think you could be at. What if SHTF and you are stuck fighting with your carry gun to get back to your family? Can your gun get dirty and still function after 100 rounds? I like to know the limits of both myself and my equipment.

 

[KG1]

My experiance with sub-compact 1911s is that when I am ROing people who are shooting them, they jam all the time. MULTIPLE times per match.

When I am not ROing, I see people shoot them the entire day without issue.

So..... I dont know what that means.

I think it means you should quit RO'ing and that will solve the sub-compact 1911 issues.

 

[dom1104]

I think it means you should quit RO'ing and that will solve the sub-compact 1911 issues.

I figure thats about right.

Sorry guys, its all my fault.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

I think it means you should quit RO'ing and that will solve the sub-compact 1911 issues.

LOL!

I had one pistol that performed flawlessly through about 250 rounds of Remington UMC. The second round in competition was a doublefeed...

 

[Hookeye]

I wonder how many rigs, when shot to many rounds without issue, teeter on the brink of component/subassembly failure (due to high round count).

Danged if ya do, danged if ya don't.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

I wonder how many rigs, when shot to many rounds without issue, teeter on the brink of component/subassembly failure (due to high round count).

Danged if ya do, danged if ya don't.

Replace the springs at determined intervals, you'll be just fine.

 

[Ted]

There will never be a reliable mini 1911 until [STRIKE]Taurus[/STRIKE] Glock makes it.

FIFY

 

[avengedXT]

Well, my (now sold) 1911-C3 Crimson Trace by Sig Sauer was flawless, despite many claiming the Officer's frame was a cause for many issues in the 1911 platform, it proved them wrong being 100% flawless.

And hell, my GSG-1911 (albeit it's NOT a subcompact... sorry for being kind of off topic) feeds 22LR Winchester Wildcat High-Velocity rounds superbly. I've had two FTF's, one FTE within a 200 round semi-break-in period. The FTF's by the way were my thumb being on the slide - I wasn't used to shooting a 1911 and it's so light and easy to rack, I get a little too comfortable with it up there =D.

Either way - don't blame the gun(s) so much, it can be a number of things: including shooter, magazine, and ammunition. Sure it can be the gun, I've owned a lemon if I'd ever heard the phrase before in a Taurus PT-845.

 

[Hoosier45]

As stated on here, and I have said before. Unless you are in combat, what do you really really need the high round count for? I mean, in the US, while you are carrying, are you REALLY going to run into a scenario that you will shoot 500 rounds without cleaning? Matter of fact, how many people do you know that even have 500 rounds at a time, loaded and ready to go?

I routinely carry 63 spare mags for my EMP, all IWB. I have a size 28 waist, and I buy size 42 pants. But I am prepared!

 

[Tombs]

As long as I run the right magazine for the ammo... Generally wadcutter feed lips and 7 round capacity, I've not had any problems out of my 1911... When I start running long-seated 200gr SWCs in a GI feedlip 8 round magazine, It'll usually take a tap to get it fully into battery on the last round. From a wadcutter mag, the same load never presents a problem. Seating the bullet deeper also eliminates the problem for me.

I think so many problems with 1911s now days could be solved with a properly tuned extractor and a proper slide release. Seems as if companies don't realize the back of the slide release is supposed to be cut at an angle, and basement gunsmiths think putting a dimple in is the correct solution. Wouldn't hurt if people knew how to hold one right too.

 

[koenig clone]

he's sponsored by the m&p line of smith and wesson products. money talks boys.