If I come along and see one person on top of other and the bottom person is out cold and the top guy is continuing to beat him then yes this now has became my fight. Right or wrong.
okay now i never said anything about using deadly force.
As far as not pulling a weapon in a fight?
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I found these in just 1 minute of searching google. Keep this in the back of your mind if someone comes at you with only his fists. A lot of "tough" people end up dead from a punch or two. Personally, I'm not going to chance it. If someone is attacking me and they don't have a weapon, I'm pulling a knife and cutting them off of me. If they do have a weapon, I'm pulling a gun. Whatever happens later, happens later. At least I'll be alive to see it.
The guy doesn't have a gun, so why would you need one? If it was absolutely necessary I could see myself getting involved, but if I'm bold enough to get into something I know nothing about, I should be bold enough to go fists-to-fists if need be. If he pulls a gun, then that's another story, otherwise why would I take a gun to a fist fight?
The guy on top was just mugged by the guy on the bottom and got the advantage.
The sister of the guy on top was raped by the guy on the bottom.
The guy on the bottom worked for AIG and all of the guy on top's savings are gone.
The guy on the bottom worked for TSA and groped the guy on top's kid.
The guy on the bottom was a drunk driver who just got out of jail after spending six months in lockup for killing the guy on top's wife and kid when he was driving blind drunk.
The two guys are in a domestic relationship having a fight and the moment you do something to the guy on top the guy on the bottom turns on you and starts beating the tar out of you.
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You intervene physically in something you don't know about? I can't say I never would, but I'd need a more compelling reason to do so.
While it is possible to be killed by a punch (as you've clearly shown), the risk of engaging in a fist fight or wrestling match while armed goes beyond that. You could easily find yourself incapacitated, either by a punch or a hold, and be disarmed by your assailant. At that point, your very life depends on that persons mercy. Not a position I wish to put myself in if I can avoid it.
A quick story: Back when I was in high school (i.e. - a freaking long time ago), a bunch of us kids were hanging around a McDonald's parking lot wasting time. This one kid was an 18 year old recent grad who was pretty much fully grown (about 6' 2" and 210 or so, and not flabby at all). Anyway, this guy was picking on an just generally messing with a little skinny kid who looked to be about 5' 8" and maybe 140. At some point, the big guy pushed the smaller kid hard enough to knock him down, and then turned his back on him. The kid got up, tapped him on the shoulder and smashed a right hand square on his temple. Knocked the bigger guy out like a light, with one punch. Turned out the kid had been in martial arts since he was like 5.
I guess my point is a.) don't under estimate your opponent and b.) always remember that your weapon can kill you as easily as anybody else if you lose control of it.
I don't know why, but your reply made me chuckle.The guy on top was just mugged by the guy on the bottom and got the advantage.
The sister of the guy on top was raped by the guy on the bottom.
The guy on the bottom worked for AIG and all of the guy on top's savings are gone.
The guy on the bottom worked for TSA and groped the guy on top's kid.
The guy on the bottom was a drunk driver who just got out of jail after spending six months in lockup for killing the guy on top's wife and kid when he was driving blind drunk.
The two guys are in a domestic relationship having a fight and the moment you do something to the guy on top the guy on the bottom turns on you and starts beating the tar out of you.
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You intervene physically in something you don't know about? I can't say I never would, but I'd need a more compelling reason to do so.
The fight I described involved 3 guys, late teens - early twenties. It was over someone's sister. Not the serious beat someone to death scenario.yea but this sounded like a simple fight. you said "they" knocked it off, which to me implies they both knew what was going on. i was talking about a guy being beaten defenselessand on the verge of either being hospitalized for a very long time, or in the local morgue.
good thing screaming and yelling stopped the one you witnessed, that works a large majority of the time, but again what if it didnt work?