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  • dross

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    King, based on this quote, did not want "special rights" for Black people, White people, or any _______ people, but rather wanted equal rights for ALL people. IMHO, King would have spat upon Obama.

    Lincoln is not a wonderful example of the Republican party, based on this excerpt. I'm willing to allow that "he was a product of his times" excuse, however that does not mean that his ideas were correct-they certainly were not on how to defend the Constitution.

    Based on the above excerpts, of the three of them, the only one never to be elected to the Presidency would have been the best to have been there, IMHO.

    Blessings,
    Bill

    I'm not so sure about King. Dig deeper into his background and you find a socialist. Many of the "black leaders" today who were around during the civil rights movement purported to believe as King expressed, but now are firmly in the special rights camp. I wonder if the same would have happened with MLK. Just as Rosa Parks is mythologized as "just a working woman who was tired after work and decided she's had enough", she was actually a highly educated activist, trained by the Communist party, who was part of a careful plan to orchestrate the bus boycott. That doesn't change the moral rightness of her stand, but why the unchallengable myth?

    As to Lincoln, based on his warm relationship with Frederick Douglas, I suspect that he was actually less racist than his speech indicated. Like politicians today, he was positioning himself. That said, I think he was on the wrong side of principle as to the Civil War, but pragmatically, that has probably been more to the good than the bad.

    When slavery is discussed, America takes a beating. Pull back to a greater conceptual height, however, and you see that a vile institution that had existed since before written history ended on our (and the Brit's) watch. White Christians were the driving force to end a centuries-old evil. I agree that the slaves who suffered here would have been better off free in Africa, but their descendants today are certainly better off for having been born here.

    Finally, racism is disgusting and hateful, regardless of which direction it comes from. Unfortunately we live in a time where one side can be unashamedly racist and never get called on it.
     

    Dryden

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    I'm not too worried. Soon, this country will be bankrupt monetarily and morally. There's going to be a huge backlash towards conservatism.
    Meanwhile, keep your cool and don't let the bastards get to ya.:popcorn:
     

    El Cazador

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    I'm not too worried. Soon, this country will be bankrupt monetarily and morally. There's going to be a huge backlash towards conservatism.
    Meanwhile, keep your cool and don't let the bastards get to ya.:popcorn:

    You mean "backlash towards socialism", right?

    Slavery isn't dead. There's still a thriving slavetrade in much of the MidEast, and in Asia. I think that little girl who disappeared in Aruba a couple of years ago was kidnapped by white-slavers, and is part of a harem somewhere in the UAE or Yemen. Afghanistan/Pakistan supposedly has a thriving trade going in young children for labor and worse in the more remote areas of both countries.
     

    redneckmedic

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    I like these examples of OBAMA SHIRTS!!!

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    Indy317

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    I am so tired of reverse racism!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You have already fallen for the politically correct "reverse racism" idea? There is no such thing as "reverse racism." That term implies that only one group is "racist," but that in a few cases, members of the hated group might become racist. Anyone can be a racist, there is no such thing as "reverse racism," only racism.
     

    dross

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    You mean "backlash towards socialism", right?

    Slavery isn't dead. There's still a thriving slavetrade in much of the MidEast, and in Asia. I think that little girl who disappeared in Aruba a couple of years ago was kidnapped by white-slavers, and is part of a harem somewhere in the UAE or Yemen. Afghanistan/Pakistan supposedly has a thriving trade going in young children for labor and worse in the more remote areas of both countries.

    You're right, slavery still exists, but not as an institution, and not in the civilized world, except where it's the product of socialism, as in Cuba, North Korea, and China. But then, I don't consider socialism civilized.
     

    MinuteManMike

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    I hate when I want to make points and someone beats me to it.

    I'm sure Obama loves Lincoln. Big business and the federal government in bed together, just like in his day, raping the country for the benefit of the already-rich.

    As for the "racism" stuff, it's just more of the same Tribalism on the part of blacks Halle Berry is only 1/4 black, but she counts as much as the 1/2 Obama. And they can do no wrong. Ever. It's always "defend the brothas against THE MAN. The blacks on my job CHEERED when OJ was found not guilty. CHEERED at a man they thought was a murderer going free of butchering two people.

    Contrast that with the black guy murdered by truck dragging in Texas. Four white men, three sentenced to death and the other in jail for life. But that wasn't sufficient for The Tribe! The fact that Texas didn't have a "Hate Crimes" penalty meant they weren't really punished!

    And what white person said that the black dude DESERVED to die and the whites did it but should have gone free anyway?

    None that I ever heard.
     

    Scout

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    As for the "racism" stuff, it's just more of the same Tribalism on the part of blacks Halle Berry is only 1/4 black, but she counts as much as the 1/2 Obama. And they can do no wrong. Ever. It's always "defend the brothas against THE MAN. The blacks on my job CHEERED when OJ was found not guilty. CHEERED at a man they thought was a murderer going free of butchering two white people.
    Fixed.


    I remember black people going around saying "We won, we won" like it was white vs. black. Tell me, exactly what did you win? Exactly nothing, and the only reason OJ was acquitted is because he could buy it.


    What gets me is (in general) black people want to be treated as equals, but aren't willing to act as equals.
     

    Bill of Rights

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    Where's the bacon?
    King, based on this quote, did not want "special rights" for Black people, White people, or any _______ people, but rather wanted equal rights for ALL people. IMHO, King would have spat upon Obama.

    Lincoln, if he had his druthers, would not have allowed Obama even to vote, much less to run for office.

    Lincoln is not a wonderful example of the Republican party, based on this excerpt. I'm willing to allow that "he was a product of his times" excuse, however that does not mean that his ideas were correct-they certainly were not on how to defend the Constitution.

    Based on the above excerpts, of the three of them, the only one never to be elected to the Presidency would have been the best to have been there, IMHO.

    Blessings,
    Bill

    I'm not so sure about King. Dig deeper into his background and you find a socialist. Many of the "black leaders" today who were around during the civil rights movement purported to believe as King expressed, but now are firmly in the special rights camp. I wonder if the same would have happened with MLK. Just as Rosa Parks is mythologized as "just a working woman who was tired after work and decided she's had enough", she was actually a highly educated activist, trained by the Communist party, who was part of a careful plan to orchestrate the bus boycott. That doesn't change the moral rightness of her stand, but why the unchallengable myth?

    As to Lincoln, based on his warm relationship with Frederick Douglas, I suspect that he was actually less racist than his speech indicated. Like politicians today, he was positioning himself. That said, I think he was on the wrong side of principle as to the Civil War, but pragmatically, that has probably been more to the good than the bad.

    When slavery is discussed, America takes a beating. Pull back to a greater conceptual height, however, and you see that a vile institution that had existed since before written history ended on our (and the Brit's) watch. White Christians were the driving force to end a centuries-old evil. I agree that the slaves who suffered here would have been better off free in Africa, but their descendants today are certainly better off for having been born here.

    Finally, racism is disgusting and hateful, regardless of which direction it comes from. Unfortunately we live in a time where one side can be unashamedly racist and never get called on it.

    Heh... I knew someone would comment on that. I'm no expert on MLK or Lincoln; I don't even pretend to know all of what they did. As such... read what you quoted of my post again: "Based on this quote..." "Based on this excerpt..." "based on the above..."

    I know that there is (and would have to be) far more to all of those stories than we're usually told, just like the War of Northern Aggression was not just about slavery. :rolleyes: I don't need all the details to be aware that that's true. While I agree that Lincoln ending slavery was a good thing, I think he went the wrong way around to do it and far more evil has come from the way he chose than if he'd just left it alone to end on it's own. The Industrial Revolution would have ended it anyway in the next few years, and while being a slave for those few more years would have sucked, he would not have had to trample the Constitution to make it happen. The end does not justify the means when the means is a loss of liberty, in effect trading the freedom of a few thousand or even a few hundred thousand for that of any of the millions who would live in the society he helped create. The South should have never been pushed to the point of secession, but once they chose to do so, that was their choice, not Lincoln's, to make. :twocents:

    Blessings,
    Bill
     

    redneckmedic

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    Yup you won, but you still live where you live, work where you work, still don't pay your damn bills, and still bitch about being broke, hungry, and misunderstood... I'm sorry, What again did you win? (this is not aimed at the black community, rather than the democratic lower class that voted for his laim ass:koolaid:)
     

    truckie166

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    Personaly i think that now we have a "black man" (well he is really more white than black) in office we should get rid of how the white man is keeping the black man down B.S., but we all know that some just wont get off their butt as long as the goverment pays them to watch t.v. in their homes while the rest of work to hard to suport them.
     

    Roadie

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    Personaly i think that now we have a "black man" (well he is really more white than black) in office we should get rid of how the white man is keeping the black man down B.S., but we all know that some just wont get off their butt as long as the goverment pays them to watch t.v. in their homes while the rest of work to hard to suport them.

    My wife works with a mostly black crew. At lunch they are always talking about how "Now that one of US is in the WhiteHouse I won't have to worry about my bills, he is going to take care of us."

    WTH?? I don't even know where to BEGIN discussing that. SO wrong on SO many levels.
     

    m4_dave

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    People think Obanga is the best thing that ever happened to America.I don't know what the hell is wrong with people.I think none of them are better than any other.Obanga is a sweet talker that's how he got elected.But I still don't see how his change is going to do anything or be better than anyone else.He has done nothing so far but put us in debt even more and we will all pay for that someday.
     

    MinuteManMike

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    I work at a federal building (DFAS over at 56th & Post). With all the Obama pics on the black folks' desks, you would seriously think he was Jesus' 2nd coming.

    One funny note though: I've worked there almost 20 years now. They always have a picture of the President and VP at both entrances.

    Strangely, when they took down the DUH-looking Bush and smarmy-looking Cheney pics...

    they only put up an Obama pic. Biden's nowhere to be found. Still ain't as of this afternoon.
     
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