Bunnykid68
Grandmaster
ConcealedOh course, where else would I secure my firearm?
ConcealedOh course, where else would I secure my firearm?
Concealed
That is fine and dandy, then why make an issue on a public forum looking for sympathy and support when they get singled out and made an example of?And if they were only seeking a legal way to protect themselves, their family and possibly other innocent people THEN would OC pass your judgement bar?
Wait, don't answer that... The OCers who don't do it for attention couldn't care less what you think about it.
Try this one.. Apparently the google drive one has hit its view limit...Disptach audio
It works, just not a lot of chatter on the recording.No sound, dead air.
No sound, dead air.
My feelings also. Every time someone starts a thread about how they where singled out by LEO for OC, I just have to ask, was that the actual intention of the OC in the first place? Seems to me, some of the forum members who OC and are proud of it, are trying to provoke or are looking for some sort of confrontation with LEO or someone else who is armed and will engage in a gun fight. Misplaced old west mentality in a modern era. Why broadcast what you have in the way of protection? Why beg for more flak and a greater push for gun control from a concerned gun wary society? OK, I know the second amendment upside down flag waivers are ready to pounce on me but these are the OC individuals I am referring to in this reply. I believe in the second amendment but I am not going to add fuel to the fire for pundits wanting a weapons bans by provoking incidents such as this one.
I OC regularly and do so out of comfort and ease more than anything.My feelings also. Every time someone starts a thread about how they where singled out by LEO for OC, I just have to ask, was that the actual intention of the OC in the first place? Seems to me, some of the forum members who OC and are proud of it, are trying to provoke or are looking for some sort of confrontation with LEO or someone else who is armed and will engage in a gun fight. Misplaced old west mentality in a modern era. Why broadcast what you have in the way of protection? Why beg for more flak and a greater push for gun control from a concerned gun wary society? OK, I know the second amendment upside down flag waivers are ready to pounce on me but these are the OC individuals I am referring to in this reply. I believe in the second amendment but I am not going to add fuel to the fire for pundits wanting a weapons bans by provoking incidents such as this one.
I OC regularly and do so out of comfort and ease more than anything.
If I get stopped, I'll happily show my LTCH and whatnot, although I do not expect it. I've been OCing for over a year and have exactly 0 law enforcement interactions.
Too freaking funny.Dang, I can't even take my wife out to dinner without missing some serious forum action. Please, if anyone has any more info about the ball club, can you PM me? My bulldog won't shut up about it.
http://youtu.be/9owHaf9c0kk
My feelings also. Every time someone starts a thread about how they where singled out by LEO for OC, I just have to ask, was that the actual intention of the OC in the first place? Seems to me, some of the forum members who OC and are proud of it, are trying to provoke or are looking for some sort of confrontation with LEO or someone else who is armed and will engage in a gun fight. Misplaced old west mentality in a modern era. Why broadcast what you have in the way of protection? Why beg for more flak and a greater push for gun control from a concerned gun wary society? OK, I know the second amendment upside down flag waivers are ready to pounce on me but these are the OC individuals I am referring to in this reply. I believe in the second amendment but I am not going to add fuel to the fire for pundits wanting a weapons bans by provoking incidents such as this one.
^^^THIS^^^ I Agree. Well articulated. I'd give you Rep, but I'm out.
That would most certainly chap me up big time. What the heck would he had done if you had a pocket pistol in there and started grabbing around and set it off? Just seems like you were being judged as guilty until the keystone cops were satisfied you were not. Guns drawn at the low ready? Damn.I just told them that my wallet was in my front pocket
That was the part that pissed me off the most he reached into my pocket. I am sure that is out of the probable cause/ reasonable suspicion
Once again, Griffin, too bad EVERY PD didn't have training like this.