So... what did S&W do instead to make it drop safe?
Probably nothing, maybe they just figured the probablity somebody was gonna drop it 20 feet onto a hard surface straight on the hammer causing discharge is fairly low.....
Titanium firing pin, and extra poundage FP spring.So... what did S&W do instead to make it drop safe?
S&W doesn't use the Colt/Swartz firing pin block, the only similarity between the S&W firing pin block and the Colt/Swartz FP block is, they are both deactivated by depressing the grip safety.just bought a 1911 S&W w/o swartz safety,dealer said 1st one they've had in looks like my other S&W's 1911 but no internal lever
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I'm not 1911 fan
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They have one model 1911 without the firing pin safety, they're not dropping it per se.gtfo
but I am curious as to whether other brands are dropping this element or not.
I"m kind of a noob, but I'm eager to learn... so if this is something unique to the S&W 1911, dont be too harsh.
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but I am curious as to whether other brands are dropping this element or not.
I"m kind of a noob, but I'm eager to learn... so if this is something unique to the S&W 1911, dont be too harsh.
S&W doesn't use the Colt/Swartz firing pin block, the only similarity between the S&W firing pin block and the Colt/Swartz FP block is, they are both deactivated by depressing the grip safety.
Orignally Posted ByGpfury86:
Probably nothing, maybe they just figured the probablity somebody was gonna drop it 20 feet onto a hard surface straight on the hammer causing discharge is fairly low.....
I'm well aware of that fact, that's why I said Colt/Swartz and not Series 80, two completely different firing pin safeties.Colt's Series 80 system is deactivated by pressing the trigger, not the grip safety.
Springfield does not used a standard Super .38 firing pin of .065" diameter, they use a proprietary firing pin of .075" diameter.That's what these "firing pin safeties" are meant to solve. Springfield has a much better way of doing it with a titanium .38 Super firing pin and a slightly heavier firing pin spring.
I'm well aware of that fact, that's why I said Colt/Swartz and not Series 80, two completely different firing pin safeties.
Neither Kimber nor S&W use a true Swartz safety, Kimber's is close, S&W's is actually closer to Colt's Series 80. Colt dropped the Swartz at the request of the US Government when building their service pistols, Colt never revived it after the war.Gotcha, I was a little confused with your wording because Colt tried and abandoned that system for 1911's a very, very long time ago. Why Kimber and S&W use it, I have no clue.