Russia vs. Ukraine Part 2

[tsm]

Just ran across this. Real, or more propaganda?

“A Russian ship caught fire after it was struck in the Black Sea and was forced to return to port, a Ukrainian official claimed on Friday.”

Serhiy Bratchuk, a spokesman for the Kyiv-backed Odesa Regional Military Administration, told news outlets that “as a result of the actions of our military sailors, the logistics ship Vsevolod Bobrov, one of the newest in the Russian fleet, [caught fire]. They say that it is [being towed] to Sevastopol.”

 

[KellyinAvon]

In other news, water is wet.

Former Wagner Group mercenary says Russia ill-prepared for war with Ukraine: report

A former mercenary with the notorious Kremlin-linked Wagner Group claimed that Russia was ill-prepared for its war in Ukraine, reports said Friday.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Keith_Indy]

Zerohedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

 

[Tombs]

Zerohedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

I'm sure the guy speaking in front of the WEF, who says you should own nothing and be happy, is a good guy we should totally support.

 

[Route 45]

Mosins. Steel pots.

And $25 Baofeng radios.

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[BigRed]

Mosins. Steel pots.

And $25 Baofeng radios.

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Do they have a license to communicate on those radios?

 

[Route 45]

Do they have a license to communicate on those radios?

"Channel Mode...BLYAT!"

 

[Wolfhound]

Do they have a license to communicate on those radios?

I am sure the FCC is mailing out the fines as I type this.

 

[BigRed]

I am sure the FCC is mailing out the fines as I type this.

Only to those in the States.... same folks whose property is being confiscated to fund this nonsense.

 

[Tombs]

Mosins. Steel pots.

And $25 Baofeng radios.

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If that's true, they sure don't need our money to win the war. Russia has already lost, it just hasn't realized it fully yet.

 

[Sylvain]

Mosins. Steel pots.

And $25 Baofeng radios.

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I noticed those Baofeng radios in several pictures.

I would be curious to know how they use them.
Sure they are cheap but they work well, that's what most civilian forces would use if they had to fight a foreign invasion (a lot of prepper dudes have those).

Now since they are using non-encrypted, non military-grade, open channels the enemy car hear what they are saying if they use plain Russian to communicate with each other.

It can be used to spread misinformation knowing the enemy is listening.
Talking about troops who are not there etc ...
They can also talk directly to Ukrainian forces (I assume a lot of them also use those same radios) to lower their morale.

They can use coded messages to communicate secretly even though the communication itself is not encrypted.

It's a cheap tool but it all depends how you use it.

 

[nra4ever]

If true can you imagine if they had the digital system. Vid claims to be footage in Ukraine. We did not provide the digital targeting system fearing the Russians could capture one.

 

[DadSmith]

Putin warns Finland 'made mistake', Lavrov says 'total hybrid war' on

Vladimir Putin told the President of Finland he has 'made a mistake' by joining NATO. Foreign Minister Lavrov slammed the West's 'total hybrid war' on Russia

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[KG1]

Putin warns Finland 'made mistake', Lavrov says 'total hybrid war' on

Vladimir Putin told the President of Finland he has 'made a mistake' by joining NATO. Foreign Minister Lavrov slammed the West's 'total hybrid war' on Russia

www.dailymail.co.uk

Stop threatening/attacking surrounding countries and maybe there wouldn't be such a push for them to want to join NATO. NATO is not a threat to attack Russia. NATO is a defensive alliance. Ukraine wasn't a threat to attack Russia. Ukraine is fighting back because they were attacked by Russia and not the other way around. Stop trying to turn back the clock to reclaim historic Russian territory that you believe still belongs to Russia with your land grab campaign and maybe things would simmer down. YOU are the aggressor.

 

[KG1]

Russia seemed to be tolerant of Ukraine sovereign boundaries as they were for many years before Putin went and got all misty eyed and waxed nostalgic for the old ways and decided to do something about it.

 

[BugI02]

Rand Paul had to do it single handed. The man America needed in 2016 and 2020 to stop all the spending and wasting $$$. About the only one in DC that gets it....that debt is going to collapse us. But alas....most want presidents that look and sound a certain way to tickle our ears......and then shocked when they blow Trillions of $$$$ on the credit card. Sadly Paul can't do it alone and I'm sure the democrats will get it pushed through. The good thing is most of that $$$ going to Ukraine will make its way back to US politicians bank accounts. The Big Guy gets his cut first though.

Actually, Rand could do it alone. He used a quirk of senate procedures that would have allowed the measure to proceed without debate only if it was supported unanimously, so his one dissenting vote delayed the process. He would need at least one democratic vote and no RINO defections in order to derail it permanently

I would mention he would not have that power if he was president, so still not buying the whole 'the man we needed in 2016 and 2020 canard' YMMV

Both Ron and he own a lot of gold, though, and want to put us back on the gold standard. I'm sure personal profit potential has nothing to do with that

 

[BugI02]

Mosins. Steel pots.

And $25 Baofeng radios.

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7.62 x 54R will kill you just as dead (if not deader) than that 7.62 x 39 lowpo stuff

 

[Brad69]

I would assume this is a separate type group not regular Army. I doubt the Russians have any steel pots and M91‘s for issue.

Think about if the U.S. issued M1’s and steel pots?

I think the worse we could do is M16’A2 and M60’s with old Kevlar helmets and PRC77’s.

 

[Route 45]

7.62 x 54R will kill you just as dead (if not deader) than that 7.62 x 39 lowpo stuff

Well, there's some brilliant tactical analysis.

Yes, that was exactly my point. That 7.62x54r is non lethal.

 

[BigMoose]

I would assume this is a separate type group not regular Army. I doubt the Russians have any steel pots and M91‘s for issue.

Think about if the U.S. issued M1’s and steel pots?

I think the worse we could do is M16’A2 and M60’s with old Kevlar helmets and PRC77’s.

Russian/Eastern Bloc doctine is a bit different as far as old stuff, they hold onto old stuff far far longer then the west does.