Ron Paul owns fat guy

[SemperFiUSMC]

I'm not huge Ron Paul fan, but this clip from his 1988 Presidential run is priceless.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi1nxu-Sy-w&feature=related[/ame]

 

[rambone]

LIKE A BOSS.

 

[chizzle]

I found this not only funny, but also sobering. The preposterous notion that a government could put you on a diet....

New York City passes trans fat ban - Health - Diet and nutrition - msnbc.com

Kinda cool to see "Uncle Ron" in his earlier, feisty years. Also cool to see his views being consistent after all these years.

 

[mrjarrell]

I found this not only funny, but also sobering. The preposterous notion that a government could put you on a diet....

Why not? They can steal your children for being overweight and you may never get them back.

County places obese Cleveland Heights child in foster care | cleveland.com

 

[SemperFiUSMC]

Why not? They can steal your children for being overweight and you may never get them back.

County places obese Cleveland Heights child in foster care | cleveland.com

Child protective services is a sham. The states get federal dollars for every child inducted into the system. It is another instance of redistribution of wealth.

 

[mxxkffg]

well its true. its up to you to make your own choices in life

 

[04DarkShadowGT]

If more people were better parents there would be less kids being taken away. Im certainly not advocating taking away obese kids, but for the love of god the parents are responsible for making them that way.

 

[Denny347]

Child protective services is a sham. The states get federal dollars for every child inducted into the system. It is another instance of redistribution of wealth.

It has a valid purpose but it can be overused. Trust me when I say there are a lot of kids in horrible conditions and I have seen this first hand. DCS has its problems but I am happy they are there when I need them.

 

[Oliver]

WHERE IS THIS PAUL?!? I know that he is probably a bit hesitant about being portrayed as even more "nutty" (I don't believe this), but I really think he could turn a few heads his way with some hard truth like above. I would really like to see this Paul in a debate one on one with Obama.

 

[Zoub]

WHERE IS THIS PAUL?!? I know that he is probably a bit hesitant about being portrayed as even more "nutty" (I don't believe this), but I really think he could turn a few heads his way with some hard truth like above. I would really like to see this Paul in a debate one on one with Obama.

All he did was go off on the guy. He talked down to him and didn't persuade anyone of anything. To win you have to attract more votes than just those of the people who agree with you.

In Pauls own words I saw last week in a link in this forum, he continullay gets relected over and over and over, again and again. Well, it shows. Because of that, the art of persuassion was lost on him and it still shows today.

NOW, I can understand getting amped up while on the Morton Downey show and that is only a 1 minute clip. God only knows what was going on prior in that episode but Paul is no Salesman.

 

[hondatech2k2]

LOL owned

 

[The Bubba Effect]

All he did was go off on the guy. He talked down to him and didn't persuade anyone of anything. To win you have to attract more votes than just those of the people who agree with you.

In Pauls own words I saw last week in a link in this forum, he continullay gets relected over and over and over, again and again. Well, it shows. Because of that, the art of persuassion was lost on him and it still shows today.

NOW, I can understand getting amped up while on the Morton Downey show and that is only a 1 minute clip. God only knows what was going on prior in that episode but Paul is no Salesman.

Paul named his own son Rand. Who is John Galt? Ask Ayn Rand. Also ask her why Paul might not be interested in changing his pitch. We get the government we deserve and I wish we deserved a man like Ron Paul. Too many second handers want paul to change his presentation. If Paul changed and won, he would be losing.

 

[Zoub]

He already acknowledges his failure. His Son is much more polished. We will just have to wait for 2016 and see what comes of the new crop of Conservatives. The problem is what if history does not wait?

So right now we have Newt vs Romney. No, Paul could have adapted long before 2011. Relics don't adapt.

 

[SemperFiUSMC]

He already acknowledges his failure. His Son is much more polished. We will just have to wait for 2016 and see what comes of the new crop of Conservatives. The problem is what if history does not wait?

So right now we have Newt vs Romney. No, Paul could have adapted long before 2011. Relics don't adapt.

^^ This ^^

If Ron Paul was about rolling back the progressive agenda, he would have stayed out of the race so that Rand could run instead. Rand Paul is a libertarian leaning politician I could support in a heartbeat. He is far more polished, far less confrontational, and far more electable than his father.

 

[KG1]

He already acknowledges his failure. His Son is much more polished. We will just have to wait for 2016 and see what comes of the new crop of Conservatives. The problem is what if history does not wait?

So right now we have Newt vs Romney. No, Paul could have adapted long before 2011. Relics don't adapt.

I see your point. In other words we have candidates like Romney and Gingrich as front runners because of Ron Paul's inability to adapt.

 

[SemperFiUSMC]

I see your point. In other words we have candidates like Romney and Gingrich as front runners because of Ron Paul's inability to [STRIKE]adapt[/STRIKE] sell himself and his policies.

FTFY

 

[KG1]

This is one example of why a Ron Paul presidency would be ineffectual because of his inability to adapt.

"Ron Paul is a purist, too often at the cost of real accomplishments." "It is perfectly legitimate, and in fact vital, that think tanks, free-market groups, and individual members of Congress develop and propose idealized solutions. But presidents have the responsibility of making progress, and often, Ron Paul opposes progress because, in his mind, the progress is not perfect."

Presidential White Papers: Ron Paul

 

[Zoub]

Yeah, Semper fixed it.

I just think at some point in the last 23 years Paul's ego eclipsed his real destiny, help found a true third party. He held his political capital too closely for too long. I have worked with a lot of people like this most of my career. So smart they don't hear you telling them they are driving off a cliff.

I honestly like his son, I also hate generational political families. BUT I am always looking to the future and adapt. I will at least listen to what comes next from Rand and not judge him too much.

I am just beyond perplexed at the state of this country and this election at this moment. Like a parent who is looking at his kid, thinking and saying, who the hell are you?

2016 may be a bit too late. The only thing I know for sure today about 2012, is this, I am buying a Can that will work with both .223 and .22lr. That is priority one on my "to buy" list.

Newt vs Romney

(insert turd here) vs Obama

I remember McCain vs Obama

Today before I went to work I said to my GF what the hell happened? I want a recall for the entire year of 2008. I want Huckabee vs Hillary and I don't care who wins, just give me a do over.

 

[Zoub]

This is one example of why a Ron Paul presidency would be ineffectual because of his inability to adapt.
Presidential White Papers: Ron Paul

Now you are just making me feel worse because you are right.

He should have been the Wizard behind the curtain and let someone else be Oz.

PS that link is a good read!

 

[KG1]

Today before I went to work I said to my GF what the hell happened? I want a recall for the entire year of 2008. I want Huckabee vs Hillary and I don't care who wins, just give me a do over.

I think I have to agree with you on this one. As much as I dislike Hillary and I wasn't to hip on Huckabee I think we would all have been better of if that were the case.