Rittenhouse pleads 'Not Guilty'

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  • KittySlayer

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    So I wonder who Lefty found to help tie is necktie. Even if he still had full use of his right arm he does not strike me as someone who knows how to tie a tie. I imagine his friends lack that adult male skill too. Perhaps it's a clip on tie.
     

    HoughMade

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    I don't know about Wisconsin, but under Indiana law, a claim for malicious prosecution requires the proof of four elements: (1) the defendant instituted or caused to be instituted a prosecution against the plaintiff; (2) the defendant acted with malice in doing so; (3) the prosecution was instituted without probable cause; and (4) the prosecution terminated in the plaintiff’s favor. Butt v. McEvoy, 669 N.E.2d 1015, 1017 (Ind. Ct. App. 1996).

    This gets dicey when we are talking about a self-defense claim. Rittenhouse killed 3 people. That's not in doubt. So, is there PC that he committed homicide? Sure. However, in this case, the prosecution also has to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he did not act in self-defense. That's a much higher burden than PC. I don't know that there is no PC that he did not act in self-defense, even if that's a thing.
     

    BehindBlueI's

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    This gets dicey when we are talking about a self-defense claim. Rittenhouse killed 3 people. That's not in doubt. So, is there PC that he committed homicide? Sure. However, in this case, the prosecution also has to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he did not act in self-defense. That's a much higher burden than PC. I don't know that there is no PC that he did not act in self-defense, even if that's a thing.

    Interesting point. An affirmative defense is basically "I did do that thing that's normally illegal, but I had a real good reason and fall under one of these exceptions." I've no idea how that would factor in, either. I suspect the leeway would go to the prosecutor unless there was some evidence of actual malice, but I'm just spitballing.
     

    DragonGunner

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    Looked for some you tube actual footage of "lefty's" testimony and him speaking.....only thing the liberals will allow so far is short snippets and saying it was a VICTORY for the Prosecutor as his testimony showed that "lefty" was in fear for his life and a true all American victim. They playing it up to the full extent of liberal logic on this one. I hope at least one juror isn't a liberal, thats Kyles only hope sadly.
     

    indyblue

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    No interest. Without cable I the only TV news I see is ABC nightly news and the short segments on the morning show before they switch to the non-news human interest coverage. I have not seen any mention of the Rittenhouse case other than a brief note that it began. Leads me to believe it is not going to be a successful witch hunt that will generate TV ratings so the networks don't care. Might get a little local attention but Lefty and his cohorts are hardly model citizens.

    Winter in Wisconsin is not conducive to rioting, even if you set crap on fire.
    The trial is being aired on an over the HD TV channel Court TV Channel 63.2 I believe
     

    actaeon277

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    And it's "vaporized"

    During testimony, when asked if he was "advancing" on Rittenhouse while the defendant was "seated on his butt" on the ground after shooting Huber, Grosskreutz said yes.

    The defense then showed an image of Grosskreutz with his gun in his right hand standing a few feet from Rittenhouse. Grosskreutz agreed with the defense that his firearm was pointed at Rittenhouse.

    Grosskreutz said that the image, which captured the moment he was shot, shows his "bicep being vaporized." Rittenhouse's defense attorney asked him if when his bicep is "being vaporized" if his gun was pointed at the defendant. Grosskreutz said yes.

    "It wasn't until you pointed your gun at [Rittenhouse]...that he fired," the attorney asked.

    "Correct," Grosskreutz said.


    And yet, it won't matter to those who have it in their head that he is a white nationalist racist.
     

    Cameramonkey

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    Thanks, @HoughMade Just seems like he should have some recourse given I havent really seen anything except defense witnesses (effectively).

    Why am I suddenly recalling the witch weighing scene from Holy Grail? LOL
     

    actaeon277

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    Prosecution isn’t getting much help from any of their witnesses. I think Rittenhouse is feeling much better lately.
    They still need a unanimous decision.
    And it seems any group nowadays is gonna have some "woke" person that has no idea anything about a life threatening decision.
     
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