If they are really thinking of disrupting or shutting down the Super Bowl. That would be a really bad idea in so many ways.
You simply no longer have union representation. Which means 'if you screw up really bad', the union can't and won't help you - your on your own.
It's a 'right-to-work' law... not a 'right-to-not-get-fired' law.
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It is a "right to work and not pay union dues" laws. The union must still work for you - except now it is for free.
Regards,
Doug
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Wwwildthing,
This is incorrect sir. The NLRA says that the union is legally required to represent you whether or not you are a dues paying member. Now you simply do not have to pay for that representation.
It is a "right to work and not pay union dues" laws. The union must still work for you - except now it is for free.
Regards,
Doug
To All,
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics and the AFL-CIO the percentage of Union jobs in Indiana is 10.9%, so let's say 11% are Union.
This means that 89% of our jobs are already nonunion.
Is that 11% so important that a Right to Work Law will turn our economy around? Really???
Do not misunderstand me. I have really mixed feeling about the Right to Work. On one hand I don't think a person should be forced to join a Union to get a job, just like I don't think a person should be forced to join a neighborhood code just to buy a home.
That said, I don't like the fact that a union is forced to represent everyone in the shop even if they don't pay for the service.
All that aside I really think that the propaganda surrounding the passage of this law is really blown out of proportion.
11%. Really???
Regards,
Doug
Exactly! I got an email a while back from an acquaintance of mine looking to hire people at minimum wage to protest at the Statehouse. I wish I would have saved it, but I immediately deleted it out of disgust.
That sucking sound is our tax dollars going down the toilet. We could have avoided all this waste (ie... Two sessions of state government where little was accomplished) by just putting RTW on a November ballot referendum vote. Instead we will probably end up with something like they have done with RTW opposition in Ohio and Wisconsin. Sickening! BTW... I have never worked in a union business and passing RTW is not encouraging me to go to work at one. I wonder how much help you will get from union co-workers when you show up and not pay dues. This is just political WASTE of my tax dollars!
Every man can be bought. You've just told us what your price is. Any takers?I'd rather be my dad paying just 20$ a month and getting paid 28.75 an hour with full benefits than being non union and being paid 11$. Plus I'd rather use a guy who had a 5 year apprenticeship than someone who hasn't. Not totally in favor of unions but they do have there benefits such as trained individuals.
This was NOT worth all the fuss. MOst Union guys will stay that way. Contracts are still in effect. No jobs will be lost. all the fuss was political, Democrats need the campaing cash that the unions send. If you opt out of the union your dues cannnot be forwarded to the DNC. that is issue pure and simple
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It should have been put on a ballot and the people of Indiana should have decided in the first place. But wait, let me get this right, voting for something, that really wasn't a concern for the majority of Hoosiers until it got politicized by both parties, is somehow against freedom?
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That sucking sound is our tax dollars going down the toilet. We could have avoided all this waste (ie... Two sessions of state government where little was accomplished) by just putting RTW on a November ballot referendum vote. Instead we will probably end up with something like they have done with RTW opposition in Ohio and Wisconsin. Sickening! BTW... I have never worked in a union business and passing RTW is not encouraging me to go to work at one. I wonder how much help you will get from union co-workers when you show up and not pay dues. This is just political WASTE of my tax dollars!
So what price tag do you think freedom is worth?
FREEDOM? REALLY? So whenever someone says something about government waste your response is "lets spend our way to freedom"? What a joke. Face reality. The union will get enough votes to get this on a referendum ballot vote. I don't give a crap about RTW! It doesn't keep me up at night. It should have been put on a ballot and the people of Indiana should have decided in the first place. But wait, let me get this right, voting for something, that really wasn't a concern for the majority of Hoosiers until it got politicized by both parties, is somehow against freedom?
That sucking sound is our tax dollars going down the toilet. We could have avoided all this waste (ie... Two sessions of state government where little was accomplished) by just putting RTW on a November ballot referendum vote. Instead we will probably end up with something like they have done with RTW opposition in Ohio and Wisconsin. Sickening! BTW... I have never worked in a union business and passing RTW is not encouraging me to go to work at one. I wonder how much help you will get from union co-workers when you show up and not pay dues. This is just political WASTE of my tax dollars!
You're the one that put this in terms of money. And, no, I do not tend to utilize such inferior logic as to create the false dilemma that the antithesis of no spending is unfettered irresponsible spending.
This is a legitimate use of the legislature. Why should this be on a referendum ballot instead of handled through the legislature? You're really good at complaining and blustering, but you offer little in the way of supporting evidence for your position? Why don't we make every issue that comes before the legislature a referendum issue?
To Eatsnopaste,
We just finished discussing this in an HR class last semester.
As I understand it the National Labor Relations Act legally forces a union in a shop to represent everyone in that shop whether or not they are a union member. So, whatever they negotiate for the painters, janitors, widget makers, whatever, is good for every single member of that group whether or not they paid union dues.
So the union is forced to work for you whether or not you pay for their service.
Now, has the union service for workers sucked in many workplaces? Sure it has.
This law may actually have the unintended consequence of making unions start busting their chops and trying to earn every penny, thus increasing union membership.
Who knows...?
I hope this helps and someone with greater knowledge than I can clarify further as necessary.
Regards,
Doug