Or just show him your ID?
I'm really not clear on how doing so is such a hindrance. Technically, you can completely ignore a cop under certain circumstances, but why escalate if you can be helpful? I wouldn't answer any questions, but identifying who you are doesn't incriminate anything.
I have little love for most modern cops, but making their job easier also makes your own life easier. I had a SWAT team come to the house looking for someone who hadn't been here in 5 years and two owners. They had a warrant. I accepted their word on the warrant. They searched the house, determined said person wasn't here, agreed to check the county tax records that I was owner in question, apologized and left.
Could I have made a stand at the door, called my attorney, read the warrant aloud beginning to end to ascertain validity, followed them around recording every movement? Probably. Would have that resolved a non-issue better than not hindering them? Doubtful.
"I've never heard of this person, they don't live here, are not here, I'm the owner since June 2016, we bought it from (renovator) who bought it at tax auction in 2014. To the best of my knowledge said person couldn't have been here since 2013 or before."
"We have a warrant to look for her and are coming in."
"Knock yourself out."
Originally Posted by MichaelZWilliamsonOr just show him your ID?
I'm really not clear on how doing so is such a hindrance. Technically, you can completely ignore a cop under certain circumstances, but why escalate if you can be helpful? I wouldn't answer any questions, but identifying who you are doesn't incriminate anything.
I have little love for most modern cops, but making their job easier also makes your own life easier. I had a SWAT team come to the house looking for someone who hadn't been here in 5 years and two owners. They had a warrant. I accepted their word on the warrant. They searched the house, determined said person wasn't here, agreed to check the county tax records that I was owner in question, apologized and left.
Could I have made a stand at the door, called my attorney, read the warrant aloud beginning to end to ascertain validity, followed them around recording every movement? Probably. Would have that resolved a non-issue better than not hindering them? Doubtful.
"I've never heard of this person, they don't live here, are not here, I'm the owner since June 2016, we bought it from (renovator) who bought it at tax auction in 2014. To the best of my knowledge said person couldn't have been here since 2013 or before."
"We have a warrant to look for her and are coming in."
"Knock yourself out."
Yea, sorry. But that would be a no for me.
I too have nothing to hide yadda yadda but no I'm not going to just stand aside and let them waltz into my house. Their warrant has nothing to do with me, they are welcome to leave.
Been in court all day. Too tired to respond...I assume others will.
The aroma of shill accounts is wafting through the last 5-6 pages of this topic . . .
The aroma of shill accounts is wafting through the last 5-6 pages of this topic . . .
Was thinking the same thing. How many comments from years old members with less than 10 posts?? Half a dozen probably?
Strange time and thread for them all to come out with opinions on this...
Don’t, the Derp runeth over.Please do not make me read all of this insanity.
Was thinking the same thing. How many comments from years old members with less than 10 posts?? Half a dozen probably?
Strange time and thread for them all to come out with opinions on this...
I’m guilty on this. I rarely comment on any blogs. These threads have been coming to my email recently and this one caught my eye. I carry firearms everyday for my job. My main comment on this particular conversation was pointing out that going out and open carrying can make you a target when I would assume you’d prefer to be part of the solution if a violent crime occurs. I have been assigned to different states and countries for that matter so my logic may not apply in every Indiana community. But you are kidding yourself if you don’t think violent criminals train and have some situational awareness. I would never give up the element of surprise in an armed encounter. If you’ve been there you know you need every advantage you can get, including luck. You carry a firearm with the mindset to use it for its intended purpose, not to look cool. When I see someone sitting in a restaurant with a gun hanging out I assume they have good intentions and mean well. The predators see the same thing I see and that gives them the upper hand on you. Not judging or preaching. Just food for thought.
This really isn't the thread for that discussion. There is one that's been beat to death with every kind of argument for both sides that you can think of. Once a thread starts to go that direction we (the rest of the members) try to direct the conversation there because we know what it will devolve into. The topic ruins every single thread that it comes up in. Better to contain it in it's own thread when possible.
The point of my comment though is the amount of "new" old members that have hidden in the woodwork and just decided to come out today, and specifically for this part of the conversation. Sure, it's possible that one or even two are legitimate. Tax time is here, the runners are emerging and low count members are trying to inflate their post count. It's also a perfect time for shill accounts to jump on the bandwagon.
You may have a legitimate interest in this discussion, but I have serious doubt that ALL the years old with low post count members that have posted here do. If so, don't take it personally, for those of us that have been around several tax seasons this is expected. Shill accounts are fairly easy to spot as well.
I’m guilty on this. I rarely comment on any blogs. These threads have been coming to my email recently and this one caught my eye. I carry firearms everyday for my job. My main comment on this particular conversation was pointing out that going out and open carrying can make you a target when I would assume you’d prefer to be part of the solution if a violent crime occurs. I have been assigned to different states and countries for that matter so my logic may not apply in every Indiana community. But you are kidding yourself if you don’t think violent criminals train and have some situational awareness. I would never give up the element of surprise in an armed encounter. If you’ve been there you know you need every advantage you can get, including luck. You carry a firearm with the mindset to use it for its intended purpose, not to look cool. When I see someone sitting in a restaurant with a gun hanging out I assume they have good intentions and mean well. The predators see the same thing I see and that gives them the upper hand on you. Not judging or preaching. Just food for thought.
I get the concern. I’m. It up on what the post count means. These INGO emails have recently been coming this me. So this caught my attention. I’ve said what I wanted to offer. No plan to derail the OP. At nearly 50 yrs I’m a little behind on the posting deal.
I get the concern. I’m. It up on what the post count means. These INGO emails have recently been coming this me. So this caught my attention. I’ve said what I wanted to offer. No plan to derail the OP. At nearly 50 yrs I’m a little behind on the posting deal.