...ATM, I'll be cutting and pasting your post without attribution. It would just confuse them if I said "this dude named ATM on this forum said..."
I'm sure they've heard of me.
So, yeah, I'd definitely skip mentioning me.
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...ATM, I'll be cutting and pasting your post without attribution. It would just confuse them if I said "this dude named ATM on this forum said..."
Plagiarism is the most sincere form of flattery...ATM, I'll be cutting and pasting your post without attribution. It would just confuse them if I said "this dude named ATM on this forum said..."
Plagiarism is the most sincere form of flattery...
I had great luck with getting a couple of the parks in Avon to change the signs with some emails to the Park Directors, indicating the specific references to the IC's and letting them know that the signs opened the town to liability from litigation.
Much of this was detailed in this thread:
https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...south_bend_parks_dept_violating_sb_292_a.html
It took about 2 days to get responses, and the signs changed.
Just point out to them the specific state laws, quoting and referencing them specifically with URLs, etc really helps, and let them know that there is liability involved, and things should move quickly.
In the case of the Avon signs, they updated them without the need to replace the sign, which was fine with me. Here was a pic of one of the updated signs:
This other member quoted above dealt with a very similar circumstance and had some success.I just got off the phone with the town hall contact info and they stated te park was owned by the town. Time to compose an email.
ATM, I'll be cutting and pasting your post without attribution. It would just confuse them if I said "this dude named ATM on this forum said..."
Good luck, will be looking forward to an update...
It does'nt matter if they don't understand why the law was changed. Their duty is to comply with it or face possible litigation. Thanks for the update.I have a preliminary response from The person monitoring the inbox. Said they are aware of the law change and will forward to the city attorney to see what, if any, changes need to be made. Also said they didn't understand the reason the law was changed. Clearly not that sympathetic to our cause or just not liking local power being usurped by state.
I'll post full text when there's a resolution.
This is exactly why. To have some commonality of law so lawful firearm carriers do not have to worry about being caught up in some charge based on not knowing the different laws relating to firearms in each local jurisdiction.That's my thought too. If anothe response comes I'll explain it was changed to stop regular folks from becoming felons inadvertently
that does make sense, but not everyone is aware of the laws as well as some here and would look at that on the website and think it's true.Forward them the photo of the Avon sign - that it's just a piece of plastic / wood riveted over the prohibition.
As far as any *potential lawsuits: The Hammond case that Guy is dealing with right now - based on the content of the town's website still maintaining old law language - was decided against Guy's suit because (praphrasing) just because it's on the website doesn't mean that it's the actual reflection of the laws as they're on the books. A still-maintained sign might be a different story - but the verbiage on the website probably not. (Because the website isn't the "official repository" of the code, probably)
-J-
Placard over item #4. that reads "Discharge of a firearm prohibited" instead of "Firearms are prohibited".Here's the final response. I offered to donate the cost to repair the sign as a sign of good faith.
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We may not be able to prohibit people from carrying guns in our park but it is against the law to discharge a gun within the park or within the town limits. *We will make any changes that we are required to make - it's just finding the money to replace the sign - that entire park has been built with donations.
I am so happy for your son - I loved fishing with my Dad when I was little! *That's on my wish list if we raise enough money - stocking the pond with more fish!
Or a couple of coats of paint.Placard over item #4. Discharge of a firearm prohibited.
......Also said they didn't understand the reason the law was changed......