President Trump Indicted on Federal Charges

[jamil]

Is there a secure chain of custody for what they took? I'm not sure I'm even willing to believe what they eventually present if it is just the unsupervised DoJ that has had possession of them. I just don't trust anything about government agencies anymore. If the FBI wasn't rotten through and through there would be more leaking/whistleblowing

That's a reasonable doubt. I would think that Trump's lawyers would bring such things up in court. The question is, if the trial results in a case presented beyond reasonable doubt, would you accept that verdict? Beyond a reasonable doubt accounts for rottenness. If at the end of the day, Trump had materials he was not supposed to have, it is what it is regardless.

 

[BugI02]

So your answer is no. You will never accept Trump could be guilty.

"It's not a lie if you believe it"

 

[BugI02]

That's a reasonable doubt. I would think that Trump's lawyers would bring such things up in court. The question is, if the trial results in a case presented beyond reasonable doubt, would you accept that verdict? Beyond a reasonable doubt accounts for rottenness. If at the end of the day, Trump had materials he was not supposed to have, it is what it is regardless.

Does a comprehensive inventory of the documents taken, with descriptions, exist and was Trump given a copy? Is a redacted version available to the public?

If the government can introduce whatever 'evidence' it wants, without having to prove said 'evidence' was actually in Trump's possession at M-a-L, I don't see them getting to 'beyond a reasonable doubt'

 

[jamil]

Does a comprehensive inventory of the documents taken, with descriptions, exist and was Trump given a copy? Is a redacted version available to the public?

If the government can introduce whatever 'evidence' it wants, without having to prove said 'evidence' was actually in Trump's possession at M-a-L, I don't see them getting to 'beyond a reasonable doubt'

Exactly. They have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that Trump actually had the documents they claim he had, and that those documents were not legal for him to posses at the time they confiscated them.

 

[Hawkeye]

I doubt that televising will sway anyone.

Trumpers are so very, very indoctrinated that even the been smacked in the face with facts can't sway them.

And those with advanced TDS are probably not savable. But don't they keep saying they will move to Canada or something?

 

[JettaKnight]

And those with advanced TDS are probably not savable. But don't they keep saying they will move to Canada or something?

Indiucky always says norther Indiana is Canada, so ...

 

[jamil]

So you're saying you're already there?

 

[Ingomike]

Oops? Georgia County Posts (Then Removes) List of Charges Against Trump

townhall.com

 

[Quiet Observer]

If Trump was tried by a jury consisting of the 12 Apostles, regardless of the outcome (guilty or not guilty), many here would claim it was rigged.

 

[BugI02]

I would think your side of the divide would be claiming those Apostles were cult members if they happened to acquit him

All depends on whose ox is being gored

 

[BigMoose]

Indiucky always says norther Indiana is Canada, so ...

Yes but he also likes a race where they only have 1 horsepower and only do a single lap...

Where we (the area he calls Canada) has a race with 200 laps and 800HP!

 

[Ingomike]

If Trump was tried by a jury consisting of the 12 Apostles, regardless of the outcome (guilty or not guilty), many here would claim it was rigged.

Last I knew there are no apostles on the jury lists. There has not been a trial and I can tell you it is rigged now, no need to wait.

The ENTIRE power of government is against a single individual.

The federal executive branch.

The DOJ.

The FBI.

The judicial system. The DC judge worked at the same firm as Hunter Biden that represented Burisma and reportedly said: Judge Tanya Chutkan warned Trump's lawyers that politics had no place in her courtroom or in this case. But here is Judge Chutkan berating a J6er during a sentencing hearing in Oct. 2022. She clearly expressed anger that Trump was still "free" and not behind bars. That‘s impartial isn’t it?

Two different local DA’s in democrat controlled cities that voted against Trump over 90% are also indicting him.

There is way more that could be listed, none of which are any part of a fair trial.

 

[Ingomike]

Not exactly blind justice.

Obama Judge Tanya Chutkan Previously Expressed Anger Trump Was Still "Free" and Not Behind Bars | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

How is this woman allowed to oversee Trump’s January 6 trial?

www.thegatewaypundit.com

You Can't Make This Up: Obama-Appointed Judge Tanya Chutkan and Hunter Biden Shared Professional Ties at Boies Schiller Flexner, Firm that Worked for Burisma | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hᴏft

When Joe Biden, Merrick Garland, and Jack Smith’s BS case against President Trump came out last week, we soon learned that the case was assigned to an Obama-appointee judge.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[jwamplerusa]

Last I knew there are no apostles on the jury lists. There has not been a trial and I can tell you it is rigged now, no need to wait.

The ENTIRE power of government is against a single individual.

The federal executive branch.

The DOJ.

The FBI.

The judicial system. The DC judge worked at the same firm as Hunter Biden that represented Burisma and reportedly said: Judge Tanya Chutkan warned Trump's lawyers that politics had no place in her courtroom or in this case. But here is Judge Chutkan berating a J6er during a sentencing hearing in Oct. 2022. She clearly expressed anger that Trump was still "free" and not behind bars. That‘s impartial isn’t it?

Two different local DA’s in democrat controlled cities that voted against Trump over 90% are also indicting him.

There is way more that could be listed, none of which are any part of a fair trial.

Just a banana Republic.

Actually, a junta controlled banana Republic would probably be offended, they at least don't pretend their citizens are too stupid to understand what's happening.

 

[HoosierLife]

Just a banana Republic.

Actually, a junta controlled banana Republic would probably be offended, they at least don't pretend their citizens are too stupid to understand what's happening.

75%+ are too stupid or too enthralled with bread and circuses to care.

 

[jamil]

If Trump was tried by a jury consisting of the 12 Apostles, regardless of the outcome (guilty or not guilty), many here would claim it was rigged.

I think that's true. It works both ways. Just as some people are irrationally uncritical of Trump, some people are also irrationally critical of him. I recall the end of the Mueller investigation the TDS'ers proclaiming, any day now. Trump will be indicted (which is further evidence of retardation because he's the president. He can only be impeached). The more extremely one adores or hates someone the more eager they are to believe that person is either great or pure evil. Mostly people are average. Average greatness, average evil.

 

[foszoe]

Whose reasonable doubt. The jury or the fervent Trump supporter?

That's a reasonable doubt. I would think that Trump's lawyers would bring such things up in court. The question is, if the trial results in a case presented beyond reasonable doubt, would you accept that verdict? Beyond a reasonable doubt accounts for rottenness. If at the end of the day, Trump had materials he was not supposed to have, it is what it is regardless.

 

[Route 45]

 

[HoosierLife]

Georgia grand jury hears Trump case: Live updates

Another potential indictment against former President Donald Trump looms as a Georgia grand jury hears evidence in Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis’s long-running investigation into attempts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election in that state.

www.yahoo.com

 

[jamil]

Whose reasonable doubt. The jury or the fervent Trump supporter?

Okay. I said a bit there. Not sure which you're referring to.