What is "Justice"?
There is no love but love of the system. The system is justice.
I believe it better termed a problem of causation.
There is no love but the love of the result the mob wants. The mob is justice.
Am I doing this right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0DK-0fIKCw
Perhaps I should ask an INGO-rated expert on such savagery? I mean his heart was in the right place and that all that matters, right?
For their to be a problem of causation or a defense of impossibility, would the court not have to find as a matter of law at least one officer who discharged his weapon after the last time the deceased was seen alive was legally justified in doing so?
If not, would not accomplice liability, if properly charged, render such issues moot in most circumstances? (I do not know how exactly it was charged so I'm not claiming that accomplice liability was necessarily in play.)
Could have, but not required.
Potentially. When this kicked off I remember scratching my head wondering why there wasn't a Conspiracy count to get around the causation problems, but I don't pitch anymore.
On a case of this profile, I would expect all i's to be dotted etc. The basis for the acquittal makes me seriously question if that was the case.
Upon hearing the hoofbeats of irregularity, think stupidity/incompetence, not malice.
I can stomach a lot more stupidity/incompetence in a low profile case than in one like this. While I think it very unlikely that there was insider baseball, I have to confess the there are a number of circumstances that do cause it to come to mind.
I know that attempted voluntary manslaughter is a charge that doesn't legally exist in many/most jurisdictions, but there are probably a half dozen charges that would lend themselves to an attempt, never mind conspiracy or aiding.
Perhaps this was an ill fated "all or nuthin" type charging decision, although the lesser straight up charge makes it seem unlikely.
What are your thoughts on a compromise answer to the question? Perhaps the prosecution felt pressured to 'do something' and entered with a, well, half-hearted level of enthusiasm without taking it to the level of throwing the trial per se, more indifference than outright malfeasance?
I know that attempted voluntary manslaughter is a charge that doesn't legally exist in many/most jurisdictions, but there are probably a half dozen charges that would lend themselves to an attempt, never mind conspiracy or aiding.
That's on the government. They could have filed Reckless Homicide but choose not to. Or, they could have done nothing at all and let the administrative and civil tracks deal with the issue.
The evidence was not there for what they were asking. The people of Ohio elect smarter prosecutors or they can live with the result.
Upon hearing the hoofbeats of irregularity, think stupidity/incompetence, not malice.
This proverb is known as Occam's Barbasol.
I make light of it, but it is so true. People look at what government on any level does, see things that don't make sense, and immediately think something nefarious is afoot. But what they forget is that it is a beaurocracy filled with people who either don't care, don't get fired and have no motivation for success; or people who are motivated, and have been promoted past their competency. Sometimes the monster isn't trying smash the village, sometimes it's just chasing its own tail and didn't see the village. Doesn't mean they shouldn't be fired and their organization downsized, though.
You raise a good point, but some people start to doubt ineptitude as a viable argument when the results get to be too consistent.
This proverb is known as Occam's Barbasol.
I make light of it, but it is so true. People look at what government on any level does, see things that don't make sense, and immediately think something nefarious is afoot. But what they forget is that it is a beaurocracy filled with people who either don't care, don't get fired and have no motivation for success; or people who are motivated, and have been promoted past their competency. Sometimes the monster isn't trying smash the village, sometimes it's just chasing its own tail and didn't see the village. Doesn't mean they shouldn't be fired and their organization downsized, though.
There is no love but the love of the result the mob wants. The mob is justice.
Am I doing this right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0DK-0fIKCw
Perhaps I should ask an INGO-rated expert on such savagery? I mean his heart was in the right place and that all that matters, right?