it's definitely a 2hawks hawk. we asked him and he said yes him and dave have been working on the scout hawk and he is supplying dave them.
I think we're blowing this way out of proportion. If you listen to the guy in that last video + what Devin said at the booth these are "forged by craftsmen". What that means is these are made the old fashioned 1800's blacksmith way by hand heating and hand hammering.
These are not forged blank planks of steel. The hand hammering *IS* the forging process. So if he started with a specific grade of steel, even if it was cast, then torch heated and hand hammered & quenched it, the metal is still "forged"......
This 1800 blacksmithing style also accounts for the slight variations in head centering and shape someone previously mentioned in this thread.
So these are not made like modern day fully forged crankshafts that are placed into giant hydraulic presses. These are made the "old school" way.
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We were told they were made of spring steel & that's what it says on their website.
"All our Tomahawks are made of 6150 spring steel. Oil hardened and tempered to a rock-well of 57 making them a very durable hawk that holds an excellent edge. Heads are made from our own designs and patents Polaris Trading Co. and all are finished with gun barrel bluing."
CUSTOM TOMAHAWKS
OK, my Google-Fu is very strong + I just spoke to a knowledgeable buddy about these.
I think we're blowing this way out of proportion. If you listen to the guy in that last video + what Devin said at the booth these are "forged by craftsmen". What that means is these are made the old fashioned 1800's blacksmith way by hand heating and hand hammering. These are not forged blank planks of steel. The hand hammering *IS* the forging process. So if he started with a specific grade of steel, even if it was cast, then torch heated and hand hammered & quenched it, the metal is still "forged". I found plenty of sword making references + my machinist & sword making family descendant buddy concurred. Some of the more resilient Katana are soft cast in the middle then only hardened near the edges or even have the harder steel folded around the softer cast centers.
This 1800 blacksmithing style also accounts for the slight variations in head centering and shape someone previously mentioned in this thread.
So these are not made like modern day fully forged crankshafts that are placed into giant hydraulic presses. These are made the "old school" way.
Grunt, I think something is either off with his batch of steel or his heat treating technique was flawed. They obviously hold a damn good edge so I think it's the latter. If he takes care of your warranty claim I think I'm good with this hawk.
I've only ever seen iron break in those 'crystal like' formations when it was cast, and usually not cast well instead of forged. The larger the crystal like formations the easier I think it breaks. Large crystals I think are result of not so good casting (temperature, impurity, etc...)
and air..????
Just FYI... I have laid into my warhawk as hard as I could and all it did was make huge cuts in some water soaked & near frozen hardwoods. I'll keep using it as intended & hopefully never need the warranty.
I wish you the best grunt soldier.
I hope this doesnt take the thread on a tangent but I havent had any problems with my crashaxe...
Ok.. correct me if I am wrong . when something is cast it means that the metal was heated to a point that it melts and then is poured into mold. Forged is taking the metal in whatever form heating and hammering or pounding it into shape.. Yes or no..???
OK, my Google-Fu is very strong + I just spoke to a knowledgeable buddy about these.
I think we're blowing this way out of proportion. If you listen to the guy in that last video + what Devin said at the booth these are "forged by craftsmen". What that means is these are made the old fashioned 1800's blacksmith way by hand heating and hand hammering. These are not forged blank planks of steel. The hand hammering *IS* the forging process. So if he started with a specific grade of steel, even if it was cast, then torch heated and hand hammered & quenched it, the metal is still "forged". I found plenty of sword making references + my machinist & sword making family descendant buddy concurred. Some of the more resilient Katana are soft cast in the middle then only hardened near the edges or even have the harder steel folded around the softer cast centers.
This 1800 blacksmithing style also accounts for the slight variations in head centering and shape someone previously mentioned in this thread.
So these are not made like modern day fully forged crankshafts that are placed into giant hydraulic presses. These are made the "old school" way.
Grunt, I think something is either off with his batch of steel or his heat treating technique was flawed. They obviously hold a damn good edge so I think it's the latter. If he takes care of your warranty claim I think I'm good with this hawk.