On Preservation of the Union at Any Cost

[rambone]

Yes, without question. Those that defend the CSA defend the CSA's reason for being, the preservation of slavery and white supremacy.

Well you're dishonest and juvenile.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Well you're dishonest and juvenile.

Still no cites yet, Beauregard?

Put down those slavery pom poms and get to work. Check the penumbras for the slavery and white supremacy exceptions.

 

[rambone]

There is no right to secede that the 9th or 10th protects.

Yes, there is.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Yes, there is.

Ah, good, then we can find it in the The Federalist Papers or the Records of the Federal Convention.

You be a Good Ol' Boy, I say, I say, and put those cites out to us.

 

[Trigger Time]

I believe leaving the union is and was legal. But the only thing that matters is which side wins to write history. The union won and so they've been able to make their cause look just and brainwash the minds of children for 150 years.
Also the person that has the biggest mouth doesn't make their opinion right. I believe we know where we woul each be if lines were drawn today. Some pick one side an some pick another. The thing is that Lincoln divide the nation before he suposedly brought it together. He had the blood partially on his hands. He wasn't a saint

 

[Kirk Freeman]

But the only thing that matters is which side wins to write history.

True enough.

If rambone side had won, his slaves would be sending me references to cites in the Constitutional record about how the Compact Theory was not just made up drivel and the multitude of references in the record as to secession.

 

[rambone]

Ah, good, then we can find it in the The Federalist Papers or the Records of the Federal Convention.

You be a Good Ol' Boy, I say, I say, and put those cites out to us.

If this is the standard, old boy, then show us where the Federalist Papers discussed restricting the 2nd Amendment with background checks.

 

[jbombelli]

This thread is ams dildos.

 

[rambone]

Liars hate the truth, so I will continue to post it and educate them. Secession built America and the founding documents acknowledge it.


"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."

 

[Kirk Freeman]

If this is the standard, old boy, then show us where the Federalist Papers discussed restricting the 2nd Amendment with background checks.

You still have nothing, huh. Not surprised. I'll check back.

Liars hate the truth, so I will continue to post it and educate them. Secession built America and the founding documents acknowledge it.

Great then you'll show us all in the Federal Papers or the records of the Federal Convention (any of the volumes) where the right of the state to seceed was discussed.

Your moronic compact theory was rejected in Martin (1816) and McCulloch (1819). The Constitution is of The People, not the states. There is no right to seceed. It is nothing but a fantasy that was used to justify the bondage of millions.

 

[jbombelli]

"Secede" not "seceed"

 

[rambone]

Your moronic compact theory was rejected in Martin (1816) and McCulloch (1819). The Constitution is of The People, not the states. There is no right to seceed.

The irony is that when the courts deny fundamental rights exist, it is time to secede.

Sorry Kirk, your side lost. You have no right a beautiful British colony.

Why do you hate the American revolution?

 

[Dead Duck]

"Secede" not "seceed"

Oh boy!
That reminds me. I need to reseed my lawn before it starts snowing this year.
I always forget that.

Thank You...

 

[hopper68]

Oh boy!
That reminds me. I need to reseed my lawn before it starts snowing this year.
I always forget that.

Thank You...

And you just reminded me that my hairline is receding.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Sorry Kirk, your side lost. You have no right a beautiful British colony.

My side won, that's why you can't keep slaves.

 

[Henry]

The Constitution is of The People, not the states. There is no right to seceed..

The States, not "the people", ratified the constitution of the united States.

 

[Henry]

The entire Lost Cause movement is made up out of whole cloth.

I will take that as a "no" then.

The events in the article(s) are actual events.

Which part of the articles, specifically, are "made up"?

 

[Trigger Time]

My side won, that's why you can't keep slaves.

I don't want slaves. I have no connection to slaves. It wasn't my fault.
slavery was wrong. But so was the way they just released a bunch of non Americans into everyday society. And we see how good that worked.
we will see it again when they give all the illegals immunity and citizenship

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Which part of the articles, specifically, are "made up"?

Making Sherman the Devil. The parade of horrors that his March to the Sea was made up in order to fit the Lost Cause religion's cosmology.

 

[rambone]

Its OK folks. The guy in the redcoat, squawking about racism, cannot harm you. His King has no power here, thanks to secession.