Officer Doosh thinks he knows the law...

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  • GunnerDan

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    I also love how he, and many other cops attempt to come up with hypothetical situations and want to draw the attention from the situation at hand. I myself dont normally OC, but the rare occasion that I do, I have only gotten one question and that was from a couple of officers eating lunch at the local Moby Dick's when I took off my jacket and one saw my SW4046 and said "nice weapon, he carried one himself before he was forced to carry a Glock" I said thanks, and that was the extent of the conversation. Oh and this was in Indiana so he would have had the right to ask to see my LTCH, but I guess he figured seeing me carrying my weapon in a nice DeSantis holster I was of no threat... The thing that amazes me is how often some police officers attempt to bait someone into saying something and "jamming that person up"

    Oh well....

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    Sgtusmc

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    This is obviously another example of baiting the police.. Officer David "knew he was right" and called to offer his presupposition backed by a hypothetical to argue against a supreme court law backed by the constitution.

    It would have worked on the street where his voice is louder and badge shinier than a citizens knowledge, but the problem here is simple. Officer David chose the wrong battleground to make his stand.

    Baiting is great when the fish are biting
     

    GunnerDan

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    This is obviously another example of baiting the police.. Officer David "knew he was right" and called to offer his presupposition backed by a hypothetical to argue against a supreme court law backed by the constitution.

    It would have worked on the street where his voice is louder and badge shinier than a citizens knowledge, but the problem here is simple. Officer David chose the wrong battleground to make his stand.

    Baiting is great when the fish are biting


    Hey Sgt, were you deployed on a Naval vessel, as in maybe the Marine Corps? Since I see you have 18 months at sea.

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    Sgtusmc

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    Hey Sgt, were you deployed on a Naval vessel, as in maybe the Marine Corps? Since I see you have 18 months at sea.

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    Marine Corps, yes. 18 months AT SEA, no. The Sea Service Deployment ribbon is awarded on a Marines first deployment or "float" and each star denotes additional deployments. WESTPAC deployments usually mean serving 6 months in Okinawa with additional mini pumps to P.I., Korea, Hong Kong, etc.

    I spent time on several boats, but the longest consecutive time I spent on one was over a month in the South China Sea. I hate boats.
     

    SSGSAD

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    Marine Corps, yes. 18 months AT SEA, no. The Sea Service Deployment ribbon is awarded on a Marines first deployment or "float" and each star denotes additional deployments. WESTPAC deployments usually mean serving 6 months in Okinawa with additional mini pumps to P.I., Korea, Hong Kong, etc.

    I spent time on several boats, but the longest consecutive time I spent on one was over a month in the South China Sea. I hate boats.

    I hate boats, I LOVE that..... That is why I joined the MARINES, I couldn't swin to shore, if something bad happened to the boat :laugh:.....
    I figured, at least I could hide on land, and then regroup, and shoot, whatever the problem was ..... :draw:
     

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    I hate boats, I LOVE that..... That is why I joined the MARINES, I couldn't swin to shore, if something bad happened to the boat :laugh:.....
    I figured, at least I could hide on land, and then regroup, and shoot, whatever the problem was ..... :draw:

    When general quarters is sounded, Marines lock themselves away somewhere into the bottom of the vessel to stay out of the way of the sailors doing their jobs. Gee, I felt REAL safe and in control. Nothing to do with swimming. If the ship was compromised, good luck getting back top side to abandon.
     

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    Um, the lady was wrong. Delaware v. Prouse ruled on stopping cars to check on valid DL or registration. It had nothing to do with stop-and-ID on the street. Sounds like the conversation was about a guy walking down the street OCing and recorded a LEO encounter.

    In some states stop-and-ID is legal (Indiana), and in others it is not (Michigan).
     

    Bill B

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    In some states stop-and-ID is legal (Indiana)

    What are you referencing, griffin?

    I was wondering the same thing, unless I am misunderstanding the term. To me, stop and ID means an officer may stop a citizen without reason and demand to see ID ("papers please"), which is not legal in Indiana. If you are suspected of an infraction or violation (but not misdemeanor or felony) in Indiana an officer may demand that you ID yourself and he must tell you what infraction or violation you have committed.
    Or am I am off base and wrong?:dunno:
     

    GunnerDan

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    When general quarters is sounded, Marines lock themselves away somewhere into the bottom of the vessel to stay out of the way of the sailors doing their jobs. Gee, I felt REAL safe and in control. Nothing to do with swimming. If the ship was compromised, good luck getting back top side to abandon.

    Thanks for your service, and I myself have a sea service deployment ribbon, but mine is because of the 48 months I spent on aircraft carriers... USS Coral Sea, USS America, USS Lincoln, USS Forrestal. I did the final cruises on the USS Coral Sea and the USS Forrestal.

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    92ThoStro

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    I was wondering the same thing, unless I am misunderstanding the term. To me, stop and ID means an officer may stop a citizen without reason and demand to see ID ("papers please"), which is not legal in Indiana. If you are suspected of an infraction or violation (but not misdemeanor or felony) in Indiana an officer may demand that you ID yourself and he must tell you what infraction or violation you have committed.
    Or am I am off base and wrong?:dunno:

    If it doesn't pertain to misdemeanors of felonies, then how can they stop and ask you to present your LTCH or ID? Many posters on threads state that the crime you are being suspected of is carrying without a license. Which is a Class A misdemeanor, not an infraction.
    AFAIK "violation" counts for anything that isn't an infraction.

    IANAL but I don't know of a supreme court ruling yet about stop and ID. States have their own individual stop and ID laws. They did rule ( as stated in the video ) about pulling over cars to check if they have a DL. But does that extend to pedestrian traffic? I am fairly certain that there are states out there that have stop and ID laws.
    I know they can also suspect of you loitering, couldn't they? You are loitering, may I see your identification?
     
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