IMO, this post was uncalled for.
I believe he was asking a serious question. How do you define "hassle"?
There have been several threads where there wasn't any hassling. Very few where there was.
I put down the Scent Away spray that I went in to purchase and NEVER returned.
I put down the Scent Away spray that I went in to purchase and NEVER returned.
Just wondering does anyone think that some people that OC go out looking for conflict. Doesn't arguing or yelling at someone for there lack of information poorly reflect on all people that OC.
Just wondering does anyone think that some people that OC go out looking for conflict. Doesn't arguing or yelling at someone for there lack of information poorly reflect on all people that OC.
Good point. Didn't really think about it that way. Sorry about the thread jack.If some people are OCing for activist reasons, then yes, they are seeking a conflict. That's how activism works - you exercise a right, and other people who want to take that right from you, or who don't want you to exercise that right come up to you and start a conflict.
Others are just exercising a right, don't want conflict, but it comes to them anyway.
Good point. Didn't really think about it that way. Sorry about the thread jack.
I'm always game, but being hassled is not a super frequent occurence in my experience. I have OCed a LOT in the past 2-3 years, and I rarely get any comments about my gun. And most of the time when I do, the comments are positive.
The thread should be similar to the "Where did you OC today?", but it should be more strict in it's content as in, "Where did you get hassled for OCing today?"
Always, a disclaimer barring OC vs CC comments needs to be added, because those arguments take place everywhere else.
Perhaps a better response, instead of trying to rally the troops to flood a business with letters, is to appoint a willing ambassador to represent this group when someone like this happens and send one letter to the appropriate people.
The letter would include a recap of the event in question, a member count of this group and their designations (I'm sure there are plenty of military, ex-military, doctors, lawyers, cops, etc., who are gun owners), and the reasons why the group has decided to no longer give them our business.
Of course, this depends on finding someone who is willing to take up the responsibility But then the store owners will see solidarity in the group instead of individual members.
Just a thought.
Define hassled.
If you're talking about the BW3 event, IMO, that's borderline, and shouldn't be counted as hassling.
Hmmmm.....DURING his meal he was asked to either cover it up or put it in the car or else they were calling the police.
I don't like to be [strike]bothered[/strike] HASSLED while I'm eating. I'd count it.
hassle |ˈhasəl| informal
noun
irritating inconvenience
• a disagreement; a quarrel:
harass |həˈras, ˈharəs|
verb [ with obj. ]
subject to aggressive pressure or intimidation
By hassled, I mean asked to leave.
OC has never been my issue, but I read with interest all the threads about people getting hassled in stores and either talking to management or just vowing never to shop there again. Why not use the power of the INGO membership to take a more active stance?
I suggest that someone open a thread about this where the rules of the thread are that if you get hassled in a store, or perhaps even by a police department, your task is to now get the name and mailing and emailing address of every store manager, or every police station or police chief from wherever you're hassled and post it. Then others on INGO would be encouraged to drop an email or letter to that business and tell them why you won't be shopping there, or in the case of the police, why they are violating IN law.
Some of the better writers here could post sample letters that could be used.
It seems like it would be a lot more effective than just not going back, which to most of these stores is a drop in the bucket anyway. Also, it occurs to me that eventually the odds are that you'll run into enough stupid employees at enough places that you won't have anywhere to shop.
Be fair, though. Treat all the gun shops who don't allow firearms the same.
Based on past discussions, I don't think it was a serious question at all. But if it was, I apologize to anyone who was offended.
By hassled, I mean asked to leave. In terms of police, I mean recieving a lecture, or being told they aren't allowed to open carry, or having the gun pulled out of the holster from behind, or any manner of things that have been posted on this board.