They should. It is the norm now, which it really should be when the Feds overstep their authority.I Don't think they expected the states to get involved just the usual gun organizations.
They should. It is the norm now, which it really should be when the Feds overstep their authority.I Don't think they expected the states to get involved just the usual gun organizations.
A - Alcohol
T- Tobacco
F - Firearms
ALL LEGAL.
Why is there an ATF?
Yes. Filed in North Dakota.Is this the lawsuit that Todd Rokita got Indiana into?
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It's the same lawsuit filed in North Dakota. FRAC is a plaintiff and some sources got it wrong about the NRA . . . which is not a plaintiff, but they are providing considerable funding in the background to help pay for it.I need to watch the video as it must be a separate suit than the WV suit I read about the other day. (I don’t think the NRA was listed as a plaintiff(?) in that one). FWIW, Rokita seems to be aligned with the WV suit.
Attorney General Todd Rokita sues ATF to protect Hoosiers’ gun rights
Attorney General Todd Rokita today sued the Biden administration to challenge a recent rule by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) that infringes on Hoosiers’ gun rights. Specifically, the new ATF rule treats pistols equipped with stabilizing braces as short-barreled...events.in.gov
Aszgerian created a FAQ in the class III section that is just the facts with no debates. Try there.So I dont have to scroll thru all those pages, is it still legal to buy/sell/ use a brace/micro conversion kit??????
As others have stated... Take a deep breath and lets wait to see how all this shakes out. No need for chicken littles just yet.
You can access Federal Court dockets online and get rudimentary information about current cases. The four major lawsuits:I'd like to hear more details on the lawsuits. Updates, upcoming court dates, locations, etc.
Video for us to promote all over the web would be wonderful.
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Guy RelfordGun Guy just said he has Rokita scheduled to be on his show this weekend.
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You'll see a lot of "Notice of Appearance" entries on them in Court Listener. For those who haven't been a party to litigation and followed a case's "minute entries", a "Notice of Appearance" is a filing that tells the court and all other parties who the attorney is that's representing one of the litigants. It's also a notice to everyone that all communication for the party they're representing is to be sent to them, not to the litigant they're representing. The opposite is a "Notice of Withdrawal" that is made when an attorney stops representing a litigant party. I saw firsthand an attorney come completely unhinged when an opposing counsel communicated directly with his client, completely bypassing him, and not even sending a "courtesy copy" or any other notice or phone call. That's a Big Time no-no that can get an attorney in trouble with the court and the Bar Association.You can access Federal Court dockets online and get rudimentary information about current cases. The four major lawsuits:
Note that "courtlistener.com" is a magnificent resource for finding cases and their status in the Federal Courts. Has a bit of a learning curve to using its search capabilities, but unlike PACER which is "operated" by the Feds with fee payment to use it, and geared completely for attorneys who will pay for it, Court Listener is free. Save those links as you can continue to use them to check current status as the cases progress. Helps to know how to search for stuff on the Internet.
- 6:23-cv-00013; Southern District of Texas, Victoria Division; Texas v. BATFE; the Texas plus GOA lawsuit
GOA website has information on its status in addition to looking up case status on the district court's website
https://www.gunowners.org/goa-files-suit-against-draconian-atf-gun-ban/
https://www.courtlistener.com/docke...u-of-alcohol-tobacco-firearms-and-explosives/
- 1:23-cv-00024-DLH-CRH; District of North Dakota, Western Division; FRAC v. Garland; the FRAC plus 25 states lawsuit
FRAC website has information on its status in addition to looking up case status on the district court's website
https://www.fracaction.org/challenging-atf-brace-rule
https://www.courtlistener.com/docke...atory-accountability-coalition-inc-v-garland/
- 4:23-cv-00095-O; Northern District of Texas, Mock v. Garland; the FPA lawsuit
FPA website has information on its status in addition to looking up case status on the district court's website
https://www.firearmspolicy.org/mock
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66774568/mock-v-garland/
- Case 2:23-cv-00019-Z; Northern District of Texas, Amarillo Division; Britto v. ATF; the WILL lawsuit
Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty (WILL) website has information on its status, in addition to the district court's website.
https://will-law.org/britto-v-atf/
https://www.courtlistener.com/docke...u-of-alcohol-tobacco-firearms-and-explosives/
You'll see a lot of "Notice of Appearance" entries on them in Court Listener. For those who haven't been a party to litigation and followed a case "minute entries", a "Notice of Appearance" is a filing that tells the court and all other parties who the attorney is that's representing one of the litigants. It's also a notice to everyone that all communication for the party they're representing is to be sent to them, not to the litigant they're representing. The opposite is a "Notice of Withdrawal" that is made when an attorney stops representing a litigant party. I saw firsthand an attorney come completely unhinged when an opposing counsel communicated directly with his client, completely bypassing him, and not even sending a "courtesy copy" or any other notice or phone call. That's a Big Time no-no that can get an attorney in trouble with the court and the Bar Association.