OK. Here goes. My cousin bought a used 709 at the 1500. It was really new looking and still had some packing grease in it. The dealer said he had fired onne mag for a function test.
Since then he has had trouble getting it to work to his satisfaction and says it too "thin" for him. I am thinking of getting from him. I had shot 3 mags out of it without issue in the past few weeks. My cousin claims numerous FTE with all ammo except Remmington FMJ. He says it was improving to where he could get 2 or 3 good mags in a row.
Before today it had about 150 rounds through it. Here's today's results:
Short Story: 106 rounds 3 FTE, one of which happened while shooting with one hand.
Details and order of mags ammo and FTE: (The gun can do 7 in the mag or 7 +1 in the tube) (Same Magazine used for all shots)
8 GoldDot 124 jhp : No Problem
8 GoldDot 124 JHP : FTE after round 7
7 GoldenSabre 124gr HPJ : No problem
8 Starfire 124gr JHP : No problem
8 Remington 115gr FMJ : No problem
7 Remington 115gr FMJ : No problem
7 Remington 115gr FMJ : No problem
7 WWB 115GR FMJ : FTE after round 5
7 WWB 115GR FMJ : No problem
8 Remington 115gr FMJ : No problem
7 Remington 115gr FMJ : No problem
7 Remington 115gr FMJ : No problem
The following were one handed:
7 Remington 115gr FMJ : No problem
(mixed mag) 8:3 GoldDot JHP, 5 Rem FMJ : FTE after round 2 (2nd Gold Dot of 3 in mag)
2 remington 115gr fmj : No problem
The FTE's were ejecte 1/2 way out of the barrel.
The gun shoots really well when it feeds good. Accurate for a short barrel. Recoil isn't bad. jump is pretty significant though.
Interestingly this gun has NEVER FTE with Remmington 115gr FMJ.
Took it to a reputable gun shop. They said the barrel was too tight when inserted into the slide and they would send it back to Taurus. He found a slight rough spot on the face of the barrel above the feed ramp, to the right of the holel. He encouraged sending it in even if it seems to be smoothing out. Gun was dirty though. Also found out that I had been oiling my guns the wrong way . Been oiling the slide and not the contact points in the frame! (hey I had only done shotguns and revolvers till April). Actually found some more grease on the rear set of rails on the frame when I cleaed it later.
Still debating on getting it from him. He got it at a good price and so can I.
So what do you all think. Is the issue worth sending in?
Should I get the gun from him? (Even thoguh I put a P-11 on layaway)
Oh and last but not least met Dtruck and another INGO memebr at the range. Nice guys. Bought my SKS and immediatley had issues....We quickly found out it was in grenade mode
So what are your opinions on the 709?
Since then he has had trouble getting it to work to his satisfaction and says it too "thin" for him. I am thinking of getting from him. I had shot 3 mags out of it without issue in the past few weeks. My cousin claims numerous FTE with all ammo except Remmington FMJ. He says it was improving to where he could get 2 or 3 good mags in a row.
Before today it had about 150 rounds through it. Here's today's results:
Short Story: 106 rounds 3 FTE, one of which happened while shooting with one hand.
Details and order of mags ammo and FTE: (The gun can do 7 in the mag or 7 +1 in the tube) (Same Magazine used for all shots)
8 GoldDot 124 jhp : No Problem
8 GoldDot 124 JHP : FTE after round 7
7 GoldenSabre 124gr HPJ : No problem
8 Starfire 124gr JHP : No problem
8 Remington 115gr FMJ : No problem
7 Remington 115gr FMJ : No problem
7 Remington 115gr FMJ : No problem
7 WWB 115GR FMJ : FTE after round 5
7 WWB 115GR FMJ : No problem
8 Remington 115gr FMJ : No problem
7 Remington 115gr FMJ : No problem
7 Remington 115gr FMJ : No problem
The following were one handed:
7 Remington 115gr FMJ : No problem
(mixed mag) 8:3 GoldDot JHP, 5 Rem FMJ : FTE after round 2 (2nd Gold Dot of 3 in mag)
2 remington 115gr fmj : No problem
The FTE's were ejecte 1/2 way out of the barrel.
The gun shoots really well when it feeds good. Accurate for a short barrel. Recoil isn't bad. jump is pretty significant though.
Interestingly this gun has NEVER FTE with Remmington 115gr FMJ.
Took it to a reputable gun shop. They said the barrel was too tight when inserted into the slide and they would send it back to Taurus. He found a slight rough spot on the face of the barrel above the feed ramp, to the right of the holel. He encouraged sending it in even if it seems to be smoothing out. Gun was dirty though. Also found out that I had been oiling my guns the wrong way . Been oiling the slide and not the contact points in the frame! (hey I had only done shotguns and revolvers till April). Actually found some more grease on the rear set of rails on the frame when I cleaed it later.
Still debating on getting it from him. He got it at a good price and so can I.
So what do you all think. Is the issue worth sending in?
Should I get the gun from him? (Even thoguh I put a P-11 on layaway)
Oh and last but not least met Dtruck and another INGO memebr at the range. Nice guys. Bought my SKS and immediatley had issues....We quickly found out it was in grenade mode
So what are your opinions on the 709?
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