INGO member in handcuffs

[ATF Consumer]

Any response on the complaint(s) filed with IMPD?

No contact as of yet...not sure if they are backed up on complaints or exactly how long it takes to process.
I hope to hear something soon.

 

[bigus_D]

not sure if they are backed up on complaints...

I can't imagine

 

[Mr. Habib]

No contact as of yet...not sure if they are backed up on complaints or exactly how long it takes to process.
I hope to hear something soon.

Good luck, I hear that they let strippers move to the front of the line.

 

[Hammerhead]

Good luck, I hear that they let strippers move to the front of the line.

Does ATFC need to show his boobs to get their attention?

 

[Icarry2]

I have read this whole thread and would have to say if I understand things right some guys have huge stones.

The way I understand it, and it could be wrong, I am wrong every day but still get out of bed the next day, ATFC was openly carrying and MP5?

If this is right I commend him for the stones it would take to carry such a weapon in public.

 

[Que]

I have read this whole thread and would have to say if I understand things right some guys have huge stones.

The way I understand it, and it could be wrong, I am wrong every day but still get out of bed the next day, ATFC was openly carrying and MP5?

If this is right I commend him for the stones it would take to carry such a weapon in public.

Nope, it was IndyMonkey who was carrying the MP5. Now it's still up for debate if the the stones were in his head or between his legs.

 

[Icarry2]

I see, well the comment about the cop holding “his” MP5 led me to believe it was ATFC’s. My mistake..

I would have to say then that all of this BS for just openly carrying makes it an atrocity.

I guess that’s why I try to conceal more then open carry.

When I lived in Indy I never openly carried..

I had been asked to leave many places when I did or if my concealment wasn’t that good.

I remember one time I got hassled much like ATFC did on the North side but wasn’t ever cuffed..

 

[Rookie]

From what I understand...
Indy monkey had the MP5 which caused the alarm/ tactical response (I've heard that some police actually rapelled on scene via helicopters but that hasn't been confirmed).

ATFC stated that he felt it would be wise to leave his weapon holstered. This led the officer to believe that ATCF was not respecting his authority. Instead of beating ATCF with his night stick,(+1 to the officer) the officer pulled out the matching bracelets.

 

[wag1911]

From what I understand...
Indy monkey had the MP5 which caused the alarm/ tactical response (I've heard that some police actually rapelled on scene via helicopters but that hasn't been confirmed).

ATFC stated that he felt it would be wise to leave his weapon holstered. This led the officer to believe that ATCF was not respecting his authority. Instead of beating ATCF with his night stick,(+1 to the officer) the officer pulled out the matching bracelets.

Too bad he had no authority to handcuff and detain a man who had not committed any crime (-1 to the officer). Furthermore, he asked the ATFC to violate safety rules to comply with his whim.

 

[wag1911]

No contact as of yet...not sure if they are backed up on complaints or exactly how long it takes to process.
I hope to hear something soon.

Given the track record as of late, it may be a few months.....

 

[jeremy]

I did some quick research. If my research is correct...

There are 800,000 law enforcement officers in the US. There are 2.9 million soldiers (active and reserve).

So you tell me who is more capable of pulling off such a project? Not to mention when the blue helmets show up.

See it sounds just as assinine when used that way too...
3 million soldiers is not enough troops to hold, let alone pacify anywhere in the US. Even IF you include the Military and LEAs together it is no where close enough...

 

[E'villeGunner]

Is there a "Reader's Digest" version of this thread?

 

[PeaShooter]

i cant spend the weekend reading this thread, but i couldn't not be a part of it, so I had to post something...


PeaShooter

 

[ATF Consumer]

Is there a "Reader's Digest" version of this thread?

A small group of 6 open carriers were downtown at City Market in front of the City County building waiting for additional carriers to arrive before going to lunch and go for a walk around downtown to handout fliers when police decided to harass and violate our rights.
Illegal detainment and seizure occurred, violating our constitutional rights.
Police did not follow their own procedures and protocol for handing the situation, placing many in the area in increased danger. At least 1 complaint has been filed, but no word from IMPD as of yet.

 

[ATF Consumer]

I filed a complaint with IMPD 4 days after the violation and have yet to be contacted by them. After rereading their complaint process, it appears my 'informal complaint' will not go anywhere, as the Citizens' Police Complaint Board does not review those..they are only forwarded to the officer's superiors. I wonder how many complaints get swept under the rug because of this?
They will only address 'formal complaints', so I need to call them Monday to schedule a meeting.

You would think that if an informal complaint is serious enough, the CPCB would want to review them...it is my belief that 'informal complaints' are a diversionary tactic by IMPD to reduce the number of violations reviewed by the board and need to be eliminated altogether.

What really bothers me is when I went down to file my complaint, I specifically asked to file a Formal Complaint, and when the attendant asked me what it was about and I explained it was in regard to my rights being violated, she said, "oh, that would need to be an Informal Complaint, here fill out this form." I now question that individual's integrity that works for the Citizens Police Complaint Office.

 

[Joe Williams]

I filed a complaint with IMPD 4 days after the violation and have yet to be contacted by them. After rereading their complaint process, it appears my 'informal complaint' will not go anywhere, as the Citizens' Police Complaint Board does not review those..they are only forwarded to the officer's superiors. I wonder how many complaints get swept under the rug because of this?
They will only address 'formal complaints', so I need to call them Monday to schedule a meeting.

You would think that if an informal complaint is serious enough, the CPCB would want to review them...it is my belief that 'informal complaints' are a diversionary tactic by IMPD to reduce the number of violations reviewed by the board and need to be eliminated altogether.

What really bothers me is when I went down to file my complaint, I specifically asked to file a Formal Complaint, and when the attendant asked me what it was about and I explained it was in regard to my rights being violated, she said, "oh, that would need to be an Informal Complaint, here fill out this form." I now question that individual's integrity that works for the Citizens Police Complaint Office.

Sounds to me like you need to file a complaint against her, too.

 

[Roadie]

I filed a complaint with IMPD 4 days after the violation and have yet to be contacted by them. After rereading their complaint process, it appears my 'informal complaint' will not go anywhere, as the Citizens' Police Complaint Board does not review those..they are only forwarded to the officer's superiors. I wonder how many complaints get swept under the rug because of this?
They will only address 'formal complaints', so I need to call them Monday to schedule a meeting.

You would think that if an informal complaint is serious enough, the CPCB would want to review them...it is my belief that 'informal complaints' are a diversionary tactic by IMPD to reduce the number of violations reviewed by the board and need to be eliminated altogether.

What really bothers me is when I went down to file my complaint, I specifically asked to file a Formal Complaint, and when the attendant asked me what it was about and I explained it was in regard to my rights being violated, she said, "oh, that would need to be an Informal Complaint, here fill out this form." I now question that individual's integrity that works for the Citizens Police Complaint Office.

The ole run around, imagine that

 

[ATF Consumer]

Sounds to me like you need to file a complaint against her, too.

Indeed.

 

[calcot7]

Wait................isn't Frankenstein IMPD and also an INGO member?

 

[VUPDblue]

Wait................isn't Frankenstein IMPD and also an INGO member?

What does that have to do with anything?