Ooooo lovers quarrel
He ate my last piece of turkey bacon...
Ooooo lovers quarrel
. Used to be; knowing a man was a current gun owner/collector, an active benchrest shooter, and normal (albeit conservative) decent working citizen.... that, and a handshake was good enough for most people.
If you don't have an LTCH, you could also have a limited criminal history done from ISP. It's $15, and you can print it from your own computer.
Indiana State Police - Limited Criminal History Search
If someone didn't have an LTCH, this could be an alternative. In reality, this and a DL would be better proof that someone is currently legal to own a firearm.
I am grinning because I think that would make a great sign on Wall Street AND I have a glass of grape flavored drink right now. I am no fan of grape BUT I love the mellow flavor of Food Club Grape flavored drink mix. It is my "new thing" and I highly recommend it for all sheep.I'm proud to be a dumbass kool-aid drinking sheep!!
Read again - Rifles. You do *not* need a LTCH to transport a rifle to a range, or anywhere for that matter. You can walk downtown with AR strapped to your back with no LTCH.
That said - I pretty much agree with the general sentiment. Yeah - it sucks. But, you gotta go by the seller's rules. It's their gun.
Here is what I see on this topic:Well, I can say this for sure. I never expected to get jumped on the way I have been, for posting this thread. I lived 'away from Indiana' for years..... and gun owners attitudes sure seem to have changed, where "friendly" private sales are concerned. Used to be; knowing a man was a current gun owner/collector, an active benchrest shooter, and normal (albeit conservative) decent working citizen.... that, and a handshake was good enough for most people.
Sad to see everyone has gotten so 'paranoid'. After all, how many felons and "straw-buyers" do you think.....are wanting a rim fire rifle, in Central Indiana?
I am grinning because I think that would make a great sign on Wall Street AND I have a glass of grape flavored drink right now. I am no fan of grape BUT I love the mellow flavor of Food Club Grape flavored drink mix. It is my "new thing" and I highly recommend it for all sheep.
In defense of the Sheep, some years ago, before all this internet and craigslist stuff, I sold a vehicle for cash to a stranger. I had a vibe, quized him and his GF a lot during the sale. He kept telling the GF to shut up, not talk so much. I got a lot of details and wrote down all my notes and saved them on my calendar/organizer at work.........................................
6 months later when two, not one but two FBI agents came to my work place to discuss that sale with me they were surprised I had notes. They also loved all the detailed pics I had of that vehicle. BUT STILL it did seem odd that the heads of a 3 state stolen car ring with dozens of stolen cars would legally purchase a vehicle from me.
Yes it would seem odd except he bought it for HIS GF to use and clearly he had scruples. He didn't want her driving around in a stolen vehicle. So I signed an affidavit, provided pictures and agreed to testify (there is more to the story) and missed a meeting at work.
Yeah, so I never sell guns or anything on the web to strangers and I rarely buy that way so I can talk big because you all can kiss my ass. But if I were buying, I am not showing you anything. Again, talk is cheap and my pontification is free but I say tell the sheep to bite it!
What's up with people who advertise a long gun (rifle) for sale in our INGO classifieds.......who demand to see a LTCH at the time of the sale?
I own a few handguns, and I've taken some of them to the range to shoot targets. But I have never felt the need to 'carry' in public, as a general rule, and thus, I have never applied for a LTCH. When I lived in Missouri, you could open carry with no LTCH; no permit, etc. I carried a few times there, when actually hunting with a revolver...... but still didn't carry when out and about for 'normal' business and so on.
What about the practice of asking for a relatively current LE 'background check' document? Does anyone here do that? Seems to me like one of those would be just as relevant/legitimate.... and I always have such a document, and am, in fact, bonded (for employment purposes).
I would think a lot of people would get turned off, even pissed off, when there's a gun they want to buy..... but the seller demands to see a LTCH. Am I wrong?
Here's another thing about all this, that really irks me.
Some of the same people who have stated in this thread that they "would not sell me a rifle or any kind of gun, without me being willing to show a 'pink slip' that I've never had....... well, I'd bet a years pay, that some of these same people would ***** and raise a rant (maybe even start a thread about it here on INGO)...... if they came across this situation (keep reading)....
Your 18yr-old or 19yr-old son, needs rimfire ammo to go on his squirrel hunt this week-end. He goes to Walmart, and decides to buy ten boxes of Remington Golden bullets (.22LR cal). But the clerk, asks for his ID...... and refuses to sell him the ammo...... because, store policy says no one under the age of 21 can buy ammo that can be used in a handgun. The clerk says, "No." So your son asks to speak to a manager. Manager comes 'round... and tells your son the same thing. "This caliber ammo can be used in a handgun, so we can't sell it to you."
All you guys who said "no sale" without a LTCH: Go ahead, try to tell me you're not gonna' get furious about that, and rant. Same thing........ as I see it.
Green,
I dont know if it was posted or not, I wasn't going to go thru ea and every post.
But I agree with you on the LTCH and it's just another scam of the gov'ts.
But you taking your handguns to the range without the permits as required by the gov't is in itself breaking the law.
Unless you're bonded by the federal gov't to carry, that supersedes
Indiana laws.
Maybe I'm wrong and they changed this law, I haven't followed or noticed any changes for better over a decade since I got my pink slip, actually it's been 19 yrs ago, now that I think about it. Decade ago I went lifetime, I think.
If I'm wrong, hopefully someone will correct me so that I'm more informed.
Personally, I see no need to be an auxiliary policeman and help the state with their enforcement duties. My duty as a citizen according to the law is to not KNOWINGLY sell to a person not legal to buy it.
"Is it legal for you to buy a firearm?" I ask. My duty is complete. In fact, I've gone above and beyond my duty.