Like the people that buy a house a mile from the airport and then complain about the noise
Edit: I was amazed a how much you could feel a run shaking the air in your lungs. You could just about feel every cylinder firing if you were close to the tree
My favorite spot is midway up in the stands at 850/900 feet when the clutch locks up 100% and the engine is humping the donkey. It will rattle your teeth.
While I know what you're talking about, this provided me with today's good chuckle because I've never quite heard it described this way.
As an aside, those fuelers' noise goes farther than you think. If the conditions are right, you can hear it up at the extreme NE corner of Hendricks County where I grew up. 8 miles as the crow flies.
As the crow flies we are 5 miles away. I figure it is top fuel and funny cars I can hear, the sound only lasts about four seconds.Years ago, IRP at the west edge of Claremont. The suits broke ground on some urban sprawl that continued the westward white flight from Indy.
Now remember that this racing facility has been in operation since the late 50's early 60's to memory. I raced there with my uncle in 1965. No houses save for the ones that were there before the track and some were being built across the road behind the drive in theater.
The area started to boom. The nationals came on Labor day as always. The idiots that bought home adjacent to the track lost their ever loving minds. A class action suit was filed to shut down the track. The judge reviewed the case and dismissed it pretty fast. He said "Did any of you good people actually know what that place was when you moved into the area...???"
We are miles from there and can hear the fuelers run pretty clearly.
I've drawn the ire of the HOA. We finally got our boat back and have kept it on site to do some deep cleaning/drying and trailer wiring. After 19 years the insulation for the right turn signal wore off and then wore through the paint shorting it to ground. I think a mouse had done some chewing as well.
As expected the HOA noticed an sent their "Courtesy Letter" informing me that
Here is the fun part, it is neither on my driveway or in front of the house, it is behind the driveway bedside the back of the house. Reached out to the management company rep and pointed this out.
What are the odds that he accepts that we are actually compliant or if he attempts to interpret the code?
While it is convenient to be able to keep it on site for a bit we don't intend to make a big fight over it either way.
I've heard stories like this and I didn't want to live in an HOA, my wife wanted a nice house and didn't care about the HOA. We live in a neighborhood with an HOA. Mine is an exception though. Never had any negative interactions with the the HOA. The HOA dues (which are very minimal, 75 a year) pay for snow removal and a few other things. They do have a mailbox rule that isn't enforced (they want every mailbox post to be exact) now because they can't get them made for a descent price anymore. Last one I got was free through them and a board member actually helped me replace it. On the 4th of July, they had a block party where the HOA dues bought food. There is bad ones, but mine is good. I just wish the guy who is the President of the HOA wouldn't drive like he does, especially when my kids play in the yard. Yes, I try to keep them in the yard but there is a bunch of kids in my neighborhood and he flies through (along with his kids).
I still cringe every time I watch this...
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And I would bet that the number of things that have been curtailed are nothing compared to those that have not.
My familys farm in St Marys co Maryland takes brunt of a few bases in rivers above and below it. When the Rail Gun and artillery are shot for testing at Dalgrin on the Potomac it sounds like the rear door on a tri axle slamming in your driveway, Or the Navy Test Pilot School at Pax River going sonic on the Bay in there Super Hornets or testing the F22 ... LOL... Thats Freedom...
This is all quite simple, don't want an HOA, don't buy a house with one. The purpose of an HOA is to maintain property values through management of exterior aesthetics. If you live in an HOA and bought your home with the standard Realtor contract the seller had a time to deliver the covenants to you or your agent, you then had a time to review them. At closing you accepted the property with the deed restrictions of the HOA and usually sign a document from the lender that you will follow the covenants.
An HOA and covenants can run the gamut from a few rules to very tightly controlled. If you don't want them don't buy a house with them. If you were to invest over a million in a house on an acre that has another home on the next acre you would be good with the crap in Coopadup's picture? I can tell you that if you were selling next to that it would turn away most buyers and you would lose money. Just what the HOA is designed to control.
Had a buddy that had the Coopadup situation way worse, he asked if he could clean up the neighbors yard when he sold his house, they let him, he hired a trash removal company and landscaped to clean it up. The crappy neighbors cost him a lot of money.
Neighborhoods can enforce street parking by the members if it is in their covenants but speed limits are set by government.
So yell freedom all you want, but your freedom is to or not to buy in an HOA. If you blatantly go against the HOA covenants you are reneging on your agreement that you would follow covenants. I am huge on freedom, would love to have a place big enough the neighbors could never bother me. But the same covenant that keeps the OP from parking his boat in the drive keeps all the other neighbors from parking all manor of trailers and RV's. Have you ever been in a 1/4-1/2 acre lot neighborhood that every home has a big trailer, fifth wheel, or RV in the drive? Not where I want to live
This is all quite simple, don't want an HOA, don't buy a house with one. The purpose of an HOA is to maintain property values through management of exterior aesthetics. If you live in an HOA and bought your home with the standard Realtor contract the seller had a time to deliver the covenants to you or your agent, you then had a time to review them. At closing you accepted the property with the deed restrictions of the HOA and usually sign a document from the lender that you will follow the covenants.
An HOA and covenants can run the gamut from a few rules to very tightly controlled. If you don't want them don't buy a house with them. If you were to invest over a million in a house on an acre that has another home on the next acre you would be good with the crap in Coopadup's picture? I can tell you that if you were selling next to that it would turn away most buyers and you would lose money. Just what the HOA is designed to control.
Had a buddy that had the Coopadup situation way worse, he asked if he could clean up the neighbors yard when he sold his house, they let him, he hired a trash removal company and landscaped to clean it up. The crappy neighbors cost him a lot of money.
Neighborhoods can enforce street parking by the members if it is in their covenants but speed limits are set by government.
So yell freedom all you want, but your freedom is to or not to buy in an HOA. If you blatantly go against the HOA covenants you are reneging on your agreement that you would follow covenants. I am huge on freedom, would love to have a place big enough the neighbors could never bother me. But the same covenant that keeps the OP from parking his boat in the drive keeps all the other neighbors from parking all manor of trailers and RV's. Have you ever been in a 1/4-1/2 acre lot neighborhood that every home has a big trailer, fifth wheel, or RV in the drive? Not where I want to live
I'll disagree! Though only halfheartedly.It is awesome that all of you were in 100% agreement with this post on the topic or was it lost in racetrack posts?
I'll disagree! Though only halfheartedly.
Nothing you noted is factually incorrect. By far the easiest way to avoid HOA issues is to avoid HOAs all together, this can severely limit housing options though. The theory of an HOA is also a good one as you point out most neighborhoods have small lots with houses relatively close.
The HOA failure is that, for the most part, they are not "homeowner's" associations. They are put together by a developer with boilerplate rules and enforced by a third party who's only interest is justifying the giant chunk of $$$ that is given to them by the HOA. Having put some thought into this I would expect that if HOAs were truly run and enforced by the homeowners we would see the foolish HOA rules quickly removed from CC&Rs (or not enforced) and only the egregious problems addressed.
In any event the trailer re-wire is complete and we'll likely try to get to the lake another time or two before returning the boat to its storage location. The management company has not yet responded to my note pointing out that we're actually in compliance with the CC&Rs.
This was exactly my point. If the homeowners really run the HOA, and not a management company, things are likely to be positive. In most neighborhoods, there is an HOA board, but they didn't draw up the CC&Rs or pick a management company. The developer did and handed it all over to the board so that it looks like the homeowners are in charge and put everything together.I'm not sure I share that viewpoint - our neighborhood is 60+ years old, the developer is long dead, and the HOA (homeowner run) is quite active in maintaining things. Homeowners appreciate the level of consistency and enforcement.
This was exactly my point. If the homeowners really run the HOA, and not a management company, things are likely to be positive. In most neighborhoods, there is an HOA board, but they didn't draw up the CC&Rs or pick a management company. The developer did and handed it all over to the board so that it looks like the homeowners are in charge and put everything together.
This was exactly my point. If the homeowners really run the HOA, and not a management company, things are likely to be positive. In most neighborhoods, there is an HOA board, but they didn't draw up the CC&Rs or pick a management company. The developer did and handed it all over to the board so that it looks like the homeowners are in charge and put everything together.