HB1231 passes in house- (Centerfire rifles for deer hunting)

[Deet]

Finally, after 50 years of not using a HP rifle I get to use one in Indiana to hunt deer with.

 

[Tynimiller]

Lot of guys out there are going to learn very quickly being able to use them makes them no better a hunter Thankful I only have 2 spots that are by neighboring fields that may need to just be told about me being there as to ensure they keep in mind what is beyond their target when launching into the field.

 

[avboiler11]

They certainly don't make for better hunters...but assuming the person pulling the trigger is proficient, they very likely can make for better accuracy compared to a slug gun or muzzleloader. And more accuracy (again, assuming the person pulling the trigger is proficient) means fewer wounded deer.

 

[Mgderf]

Guess this helps make up my mind.
I have a new Ingo lower on the way that now seems destine to become a .300 Blackout rifle.
I already have the 10 round mag...

 

[M4Madness]

Guess this helps make up my mind.
I have a new Ingo lower on the way that now seems destine to become a .300 Blackout rifle.
I already have the 10 round mag...

Wait to see if they clarify 300 first.

 

[BIGE7.62]

So I'm guessing I can now use my 6.8

 

[Paul30]

As long as it's a .40 cal handgun and not a carbine.

Nope, mine is a pistol, with a sig arm brace for stability.

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[avboiler11]

So I'm guessing I can now use my 6.8

Nope...because your 6.8 isn't a 243, 30-30, 300, 308 or 30-06.

 

[Paul30]

Guess this helps make up my mind.
I have a new Ingo lower on the way that now seems destine to become a .300 Blackout rifle.
I already have the 10 round mag...

Doesn't sound like it has to be a 10 round magazine, just don't have more than 10 rounds on your person. If you had a 10 round magazine that is fine, just don't have any extra ammo according to the silly wording. Of course if you shoot the old pistol caliber lever action, you can bring all you want.

 

[avboiler11]

Wait to see if they clarify 300 first.

If the bill gets Pence's signature with it saying the very ambiguous "300", the DNR wouldn't have a very good legal argument for 'clarifying' that to mean 300WM but not 300 AAC Blackout or 300 Savage (or any combination thereof).

 

[Paul30]

If the bill gets Pence's signature with it saying the very ambiguous "300", the DNR wouldn't have a very good legal argument for 'clarifying' that to mean 300WM but not 300 AAC Blackout or 300 Savage (or any combination thereof).

I don'[t see why, it is already legal to hunt with 300 BO in a pistol. A pistol legal 15 inch barrel 2369 fps vs a 16 in barrel having 2397 fps. Doesn't seem like it should matter, but then again why would facts be used for such a decision at this point.



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[Indy99]

.300 weatherby mag, .300 RUM.......? Clarification please......

 

[Mgderf]

Wait to see if they clarify 300 first.

HEY, don't rain on my parade!
I'll use this as an excuse to build it anyway.

It really matters not to me.
This bill, if it gets Pences signature will add at least 3 other caliber rifles I already own.
I'll just need some range time between now and season's open to dial them all in and make sure I'm good again.
I'll be able to add .30-30, .308, and .30-06 just by opening the safe!

The bill may not be perfect, but it's a step in the right direction.

 

[AGarbers]

5 (A) .243. 16(B) .30-30. 17(C) .300. 18(D) .30-06. 19(E) .308.
Technically there's only two named cartridges listed, the .30-30 and the 30-06. The rest are calibers. I would assume the legislature doesn't write laws in slang. The correct name for a ".243" is .243 Winchester. As we have already discussed I would think any .243/6mm cartridge would fall under .243. The same goes for .308. The correct name is .308 Winchester, so I would think any .308/7.5mm cartridge would be legal. I would think anyone could challenge this law with this interpretation and win. ​

 

[M4Madness]

Since two cartridges are listed, it is safe to assume that all five are supposed to be.

 

[brotherbill3]

If the bill gets Pence's signature with it saying the very ambiguous "300", the DNR wouldn't have a very good legal argument for 'clarifying' that to mean 300WM but not 300 AAC Blackout or 300 Savage (or any combination thereof).

The time for the legislation to 'change' is over ... it is what it is ... the wording is set, at least until Next January.

I don'[t see why, it is already legal to hunt with 300 BO in a pistol. A pistol legal 15 inch barrel 2369 fps vs a 16 in barrel having 2397 fps. Doesn't seem like it should matter, but then again why would facts be used for such a decision at this point.



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You obviously were not listening to the 'dialog' from the few senators opposed today vs Sen Tomes and Sen Steele trying to explain ballistics.

.300 weatherby mag, .300 RUM.......? Clarification please......

Maybe in the DNR rules for the fall when they come out; but there is not reason (IMO) for them to rule out any of the 300's that I know of ...

I think we need (to make) the 300 Super DeerSlayer UnicornFart Killer round ... (relax it's a joke ... see I used purple paint)

 

[Mgderf]

So what's the expected time parameters before we know whether Pence signs it or not?

 

[Restroyer]

Did they remove the must be elevated 10 feet nonsense? Also does the final version say anything about "only to be used in the southern part of the state" ? Will these cartridges and calibers be allowed in both public & private land? Just trying to make sure I am clear on all the changes.

 

[brotherbill3]

So what's the expected time parameters before we know whether Pence signs it or not?

Now that it all conforms -
sign by speaker
sign by president pro tempore
sign by president of senate (Lt Gov) - these 3 do not have a time limit IIRC from last year's SB 229 process.

Then Off the Gov - who has 10 days to sign or veto - if no sign. - it becomes law ... all in all ... it could take until end of the month; but should be done by then.

It is likely to be signed; and with "PART 3" - being needed so that the law takes effect immediately (not on July 1) - I'd say probably sooner. ... then DNR starts writting the revised rule book for the fall.

 

[brotherbill3]

Did they remove the must be elevated 10 feet nonsense? Also does the final version say anything about "only to be used in the southern part of the state" ? Will these cartridges and calibers be allowed in both public & private land? Just trying to make sure I am clear on all the changes.

No 10 foot rule;
No regions - Statewide
PRIVATE property only