Hammond's trying to be proactive

[Bill B]

Gun ordinance gains initial approval in Hammond

The stoty doesn't mention the park prohibition, or the ordinance prohibiting the storage of more than 500 rounds of ammunition.
FYI Kim Poland is the only R on the council

 

[9mmfan]

Ok to carry my gun into a city building, but WATCH OUT for my Kershaw Leek, that is a monster slayer!

 

[need4speed255]

Do you have any more info on the other items you mentioned?

 

[45calibre]

so can you carry at the Hammond police station?

 

[Bill B]

so can you carry at the Hammond police station?

That would probably be a bad idea.
See this thread: https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...f_defense/161501-are_you_staying_in_jail.html

 

[Bill B]

Do you have any more info on the other items you mentioned?

What specific information are you looking for?

 

[gunbunnies]

Didn't know I was illegal in a city park... guess my walks will have to be truly around the outside of the park for now on, just in case... hate walking in the middle of the street though.... but if the govment says it's good for me who am I to argue.. LOL

 

[Bill B]

You're good now, heck you could have carried at festival of the lakes and they could not have stopped you or asked you to leave.

 

[J_Wales]

I am not aware of the city rule re: storage of more than 500 rounds of ammo.

Do you have any info or cites on this?

 

[Bill of Rights]

IC 35-47-11.1-2
Political subdivision regulation of firearms, ammunition, and firearm accessories prohibited
Sec. 2. Except as provided in section 4 of this chapter, a political subdivision may not regulate:
(1) firearms, ammunition, and firearm accessories;
(2) the ownership, possession, carrying, transportation, registration, transfer, and storage of firearms, ammunition, and firearm accessories; and
(3) commerce in and taxation of firearms, firearm ammunition, and firearm accessories.

If Hammond has such an ordinance, it is forbidden under IC 35-47-11.1, which provides for civil penalties.

One might even look upon this ordinance as a financial opportunity. I wouldn't advise anyone to violate the law, however, according to:
IC 35-47-11.1-3
Voidance of political subdivision ordinances, measures, enactments, rules, policies, and exercises of proprietary authority
Sec. 3. Any provision of an ordinance, measure, enactment, rule, or policy or exercise of proprietary authority of a political subdivision or of an employee or agent of a political subdivision acting in an official capacity:
(1) enacted or undertaken before, on, or after June 30, 2011; and
(2) that pertains to or affects the matters listed in section 2 of this chapter;
is void.
this is not law... it is void.

Just sayin'...

Blessings,
Bill

 

[45fan]

Ok to carry my gun into a city building, but WATCH OUT for my Kershaw Leek, that is a monster slayer!

Doesnt the new law include gun accessories that enhance performance?
I guess if you want to carry a knife in city hall, you can always get a bayonet for your AR, and still be good. Wouldnt that be permissible?

 

[Bill B]

I am not aware of the city rule re: storage of more than 500 rounds of ammo.

Do you have any info or cites on this?

From the Hammond City ordinances:

Sec99.28 "(A) No person shall bring into or have in his or her possession in any park or park street any firearms, slingshots, firecrackers, torpedoes..."

Sec93.020 "(A)...Nothing herein contained shall be held to prevent any person from keeping on his own premises, for his or her own use, a quantity of gunpowder not exceeding 1 pound or loaded shells or cartridges not exceeding 500 in number."

Sec 99 deals with the parks, Sec 93 is the fire prevention ordinance. Heck I'm sure I have 20 times the number listed in that one.

 

[jedi]

Didn't know I was illegal in a city park... guess my walks in a motorized wheelchair will have to be truly around the outside of the park for now on, just in case

FTFY

IC 35-47-11.1-2
Political subdivision regulation of firearms, ammunition, and firearm accessories prohibited
Sec. 2. Except as provided in section 4 of this chapter, a political subdivision may not regulate:
(1) firearms, ammunition, and firearm accessories;
(2) the ownership, possession, carrying, transportation, registration, transfer, and storage of firearms, ammunition, and firearm accessories; and
(3) commerce in and taxation of firearms, firearm ammunition, and firearm accessories.

If Hammond has such an ordinance, it is forbidden under IC 35-47-11.1, which provides for civil penalties.

One might even look upon this ordinance as a financial opportunity. I wouldn't advise anyone to violate the law, however, according to:
IC 35-47-11.1-3
Voidance of political subdivision ordinances, measures, enactments, rules, policies, and exercises of proprietary authority
Sec. 3. Any provision of an ordinance, measure, enactment, rule, or policy or exercise of proprietary authority of a political subdivision or of an employee or agent of a political subdivision acting in an official capacity:
(1) enacted or undertaken before, on, or after June 30, 2011; and
(2) that pertains to or affects the matters listed in section 2 of this chapter;
is void.
this is not law... it is void.

Just sayin'...

Blessings,
Bill

As Bill B shows you the city of Hammond does still indeed have 2 ordiances that are in violation of the law.

I don't think Hammond is aware of these two ordianace.

From the Hammond City ordinances:


Sec 99 deals with the parks, Sec 93 is the fire prevention ordinance. Heck I'm sure I have 20 times the number listed in that one.

As BoR points out this is a good $$$ for anyone that the city tries to slap a fine with. Suspect that no one has ever been fined for the 500+ ammo stuff.

 

[stephen87]

As Bill B points out, I gotta leave my submarine unarmed when I take it to Hammond now.


Not to threadjack, but would this new law nullify the Town of Speedway concealed carry law?

 

[Bill B]

As Bill B points out, I gotta leave my submarine unarmed when I take it to Hammond now.


Not to threadjack, but would this new law nullify the Town of Speedway concealed carry law?

Hammond is a railroad town, "torpedo" refers to railway torpedo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detonator_(railway)

 

[Bill of Rights]

As Bill B points out, I gotta leave my submarine unarmed when I take it to Hammond now.


Not to threadjack, but would this new law nullify the Town of Speedway concealed carry law?

Yes.

 

[jedi]

Not to threadjack, but would this new law nullify the Town of Speedway concealed carry law?

I'll answer this 1 only because your our hillbilly cousin from the SOUTH (ie. Anything SOUTH of NWI is hillbilly land until you get to the next land of crazy called bloomin....

Yes the new laws on 01 JUL 2011 did a

on all city and county laws regarding guns!


So whatever speedway had (I think it was OC only) is now out the window.c

 

[Jack Burton]

500 rounds? I've got that much rolling around in the back of my SUV.

 

[danimal]

funny, you'd think the hammond cops would be sitting outside cabela's to ticket people every time the buy one of those 500+ round bricks of .22s

 

[ATM]

...So whatever speedway had (I think it was OC only) is now out the window.

Dang. I kinda liked that one.