Greece in flames

[jedi]

Greece passes new austerity deal amid rioting - Yahoo! News

Riots all over the capital due to the passage of new laws that were forced upon the Greece by the EU in order for the bailouts. Hum... signs of what will come to the shores of this country soon.

-Jedi

 

[mike8170]

It is going to be a mess over there, and we are heading the same way with the entitlement system that we currently have. Maybe it needs to happen here. Anyone read Heinlein?

 

[jedi]

It is going to be a mess over there, and we are heading the same way with the entitlement system that we currently have. Maybe it needs to happen here. Anyone read Heinlein?

I don't even want to image what will occur when we are forced to STOP welfare. The LA riots x 100000000000000000 it will be.

But up first I think congress may be crazy enough to take the CBOs advise of NO DEDUCTIONS/CREDITS for the 2012+ tax season.

Wonder if the masses (workers) would riot over that?

 

[indykid]

While we don't need to go as far as the Greeks, if we were to take some of the measures that they took to reign in the spending, there would be more than a few people who would feel like they had nothing to lose by going over the edge.

I hope sanity prevails.

 

[mike8170]

While we don't need to go as far as the Greeks, if we were to take some of the measures that they took to reign in the spending, there would be more than a few people who would feel like they had nothing to lose by going over the edge.

I hope sanity prevails.

The Greeks have been doing this for 2 years that I can remember, and no relief. Once the ball starts rolling, it is hard as anything to stop. I need to quit posting, the tequila is getting to me, and I will just get mad.

 

[Classic]

Instead as a country we have been increasing the amount of government jobs and welfare recipients, increasing the minimum wage while spending way more than we earn every year. Doing the opposite of what we should be doing. It's almost as if it were intentional on the part of government to ruin us financially. Sad.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

You can't take peoples treats away from the them without consequence.

 

[thegunfan]

yes

It is going to be a mess over there, and we are heading the same way with the entitlement system that we currently have. Maybe it needs to happen here. Anyone read Heinlein?

Wasn't Heinlein a science fiction writer? I recall reading several of his books during the late 80's.

 

[Donnelly]

TANSTAAFL

There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

First used in "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" by Robert A. Heinlein

 

[CarmelHP]

TANSTAAFL

There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

First used in "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" by Robert A. Heinlein

No, other usages of the phrase went back 30 or 40 years previously, though Heinlein probably popularized it more than anyone.

 

[BumpShadow]

I don't think it will the same here. The Eu is uses this crisis to eliminate Greece's sovereignty and turn it from a nation into a state. The endgame is to create the united sates of Europe.

I agree it could be bad if it ever comes to a similar situation here, but not the same. Taxes go up, yes. Cutting spending, yes. But the EU has gone beyond that and is weaponizing the tax code. It's is forcing Greece to become totally dependent on the EU from now on.

 

[Prometheus]

I don't think it will the same here. The Eu is uses this crisis to eliminate Greece's sovereignty and turn it from a nation into a state. The endgame is to create the united sates of Europe.

I agree it could be bad if it ever comes to a similar situation here, but not the same. Taxes go up, yes. Cutting spending, yes. But the EU has gone beyond that and is weaponizing the tax code. It's is forcing Greece to become totally dependent on the EU from now on.

The dictionary definition and the way the founding fathers used those two words makes them synonymous.

Unfortunately ignorant Americans today don't realize that... anymore so than they even know what the tenth amendment says.

I do agree they will lose their sovereignty. Debt is slavery.

Same thing will happen here.

 

[BumpShadow]

The dictionary definition and the way the founding fathers used those two words makes them synonymous.

Unfortunately ignorant Americans today don't realize that... anymore so than they even know what the tenth amendment says.

I do agree they will lose their sovereignty. Debt is slavery.

Same thing will happen here.

Ah, well. I'm a ignorant American I guess. At least I think that's what that sentence is saying. Hard to tell. It doesn't make a lot of sense.

 

[jeremy]

To steal a line from a song fittingly from 1984...

Rock Master Scott & the Dynamic Three
We don't need no water—Let the mother****a' burn!

Burn, mother****a', burn!

 

[dhnorris]

I believe illinios is in worse shape than greece. No one paid taxes in greece.

 

[ArmedProgrammer]

I don't think it will the same here. The Eu is uses this crisis to eliminate Greece's sovereignty and turn it from a nation into a state. The endgame is to create the united sates of Europe.

I agree it could be bad if it ever comes to a similar situation here, but not the same. Taxes go up, yes. Cutting spending, yes. But the EU has gone beyond that and is weaponizing the tax code. It's is forcing Greece to become totally dependent on the EU from now on.

I respectfully disagree - they lost their sovereign status when they signed up to be part of the EU. They made their choice. And then they made it further when they continued to rack up massive debt.