Great weather for running the Carbine Courses.....

[sgreen3]

Took advantage of some really nice October weather yesterday and got out and done some Run-N-gun with a few friends. I have to say it really shows you what you need to work on as a shooter and for your systems when you run courses such as this.... I'm really liking how I got this rifle currently configured although it could be a bit lighter and I need to get a different holster that hugs the body a bit better. Other than that I'm pretty pleased with how well the runs went for me, but there is always room for improvement..




[video=youtube;mPpRcDudbqY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPpRcDudbqY[/video]


Here is one of the runs from NyleRN

[video=youtube;dmrU-P4Y4vM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmrU-P4Y4vM[/video]

 

[Fordtough25]

Excellent! Look forward to trying your course out in the future.

 

[sgreen3]

Yea be good to have ya out Ford!

 

[Notalentbum]

Looks like fun! Something I'd like to try some time. Do you have an emergency defibrillator on site for me? Haven't done much running lately and both of you looked just a bit winded after the run.

Matt

 

[sgreen3]

Ha ha I know what you mean, It takes some getting use to as far as the physical activity but its well worth it from a training aspect. Running the courses are a ton of fun.

 

[gregkl]

Nice. It is fun to do that course!

 

[rhino]

I know that Kyle Lamb and his students use the barricade for support when they do the 9-Hole Drill, but have you guys considered trying it without using it for support (and not pushing your muzzle through the ports)? In addition to the challenge of the marksmanship without a rest, you also have to be aware of your muzzle position with respect to the port (and your line of sight).

In terms of applications, that barricade and its ports are designed to force you into unorthodox and uncomfortable shooting positions which you might encounter in a bad social situation. In those situations, you might be able to use something for support (and you should if it's available), but I think it's a good idea to also practice shooting unsupported for times when it's not possible to get a support.

 

[sgreen3]

I know that Kyle Lamb and his students use the barricade for support when they do the 9-Hole Drill, but have you guys considered trying it without using it for support (and not pushing your muzzle through the ports)? In addition to the challenge of the marksmanship without a rest, you also have to be aware of your muzzle position with respect to the port (and your line of sight).

In terms of applications, that barricade and its ports are designed to force you into unorthodox and uncomfortable shooting positions which you might encounter in a bad social situation. In those situations, you might be able to use something for support (and you should if it's available), but I think it's a good idea to also practice shooting unsupported for times when it's not possible to get a support.

Yes I've ran it a few times unsupported, should probably do it more though. Its real fun doing it with a pistol. The main thing for me running the boards for me is just getting into the positions and shooting with the addition of the cardio involved in doing it. Just wish I had more time to play with them and do different things such as those.

 

[sporter]

Being that you are in Scottsburg you ought to come out and try a USPSA Match in Sellersburg or Freetown (this weekend!) to refine some of your pistol handling skills. I guarantee you'll learn a lot for a $20 match fee.

 

[sgreen3]

Already have prior shooting engagements to attend but may have to give that a try sometime.

 

[sgreen3]

Another video of the medium course. Wish Id had time to run it that day using my DB15 build, I'm really starting to favor the 1-4x optic over the red dot setup that I have on the Franken AR.

[video=youtube;lWsO6kZluyY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWsO6kZluyY[/video]

 

[weedsnager]

Where is this located ? I would love to do something like this someday

 

[jblomenberg16]

Good work training in a non-standard way! Even if you never need to do that in real life, and a lot of us civilians hope and pray that we never do, it does help you learn your strengths and weaknesses. Plus having yourself on video is always helpful for critiquing technique.

As a completely armature shooter myself, I'd offer a couple bits of constructive feedback to supplement what Rhino said. This is from some learnings I've had in previous instructor led carbine classes.


1) In the spirit of knowing cover and concealment, treat the barricade as if it were cover - i.e. it was something of sufficient mass and construction to protect you from incoming threats. As such, take a look at some of the more awkward positions and note how much of your body is no longer behind said cover.

2) For some of the lower positions, consider a roll over prone, "broke back" prone (your rear end is hiked up in the air), or a standard prone, but with the ejection port facing up. This is key to preventing some potential malfunctions from brass or debris bouncing into the ejection port.

3) Hits matter, and are even more important when firing from uncomfortable positions. Really work on the fundamentals of getting a good sight picture and pressing the trigger.

 

[rhino]

Eye protection would be a good idea too!

 

[sgreen3]

Eye protection would be a good idea too!

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to say it...

 

[sgreen3]

Good work training in a non-standard way! Even if you never need to do that in real life, and a lot of us civilians hope and pray that we never do, it does help you learn your strengths and weaknesses. Plus having yourself on video is always helpful for critiquing technique.

As a completely armature shooter myself, I'd offer a couple bits of constructive feedback to supplement what Rhino said. This is from some learnings I've had in previous instructor led carbine classes.


1) In the spirit of knowing cover and concealment, treat the barricade as if it were cover - i.e. it was something of sufficient mass and construction to protect you from incoming threats. As such, take a look at some of the more awkward positions and note how much of your body is no longer behind said cover.

2) For some of the lower positions, consider a roll over prone, "broke back" prone (your rear end is hiked up in the air), or a standard prone, but with the ejection port facing up. This is key to preventing some potential malfunctions from brass or debris bouncing into the ejection port.

3) Hits matter, and are even more important when firing from uncomfortable positions. Really work on the fundamentals of getting a good sight picture and pressing the trigger.

Indeed, I agree... Thanks for the words of advice, Ill defiantly try to incorporate some of those.

 

[sgreen3]

Where is this located ? I would love to do something like this someday

Its in my backyard, yea its a lot of fun. Great way of shooting outside your comfort zone.

 

[JollyMon]

I know that Kyle Lamb and his students use the barricade for support when they do the 9-Hole Drill, but have you guys considered trying it without using it for support (and not pushing your muzzle through the ports)? In addition to the challenge of the marksmanship without a rest, you also have to be aware of your muzzle position with respect to the port (and your line of sight).

In terms of applications, that barricade and its ports are designed to force you into unorthodox and uncomfortable shooting positions which you might encounter in a bad social situation. In those situations, you might be able to use something for support (and you should if it's available), but I think it's a good idea to also practice shooting unsupported for times when it's not possible to get a support.

In the last three carbine classes that I took in the past year, most used VTAC barricade to simulate different shooting positions. The ports are normally unsupported (for me), depending on distance (longer will be supported). However, if unsupported, the muzzle of the rifle is usually in or at least very close to the port.

 

[sgreen3]

In the last three carbine classes that I took in the past year, most used VTAC barricade to simulate different shooting positions. The ports are normally unsupported (for me), depending on distance (longer will be supported). However, if unsupported, the muzzle of the rifle is usually in or at least very close to the port.

Yea I've seen the shot both ways in classes I've been to as well. All comes down to what your trying to accomplish for a given training session I would say.

 

[rhino]

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to say it...

So . . . reason for not wearing?