I wrote a scalding review of the Gen4 Glock 17 when I first saw one at Bradis. Got alot of flack for it. I wasn't impressed at all, and won't let my Gen3's go for a Gen4. No way.
you wrote a review based on what you saw?
I wrote a scalding review of the Gen4 Glock 17 when I first saw one at Bradis. Got alot of flack for it. I wasn't impressed at all, and won't let my Gen3's go for a Gen4. No way.
When I saw rail on a compact, I mean the baby Glocks. Glock may call the G19 a compact, but that is their term. I have a G19 and I do not consider it a compact by any means.
I didn't read most of this thread. I have Glocks, I prefer Glocks, that's not the point. I have a Gen4 17 and love it, not a single problem yet in over 1000 rds. My EDC is a gen2 G23 (bought used 13 years ago, looks beat to hell) with a slightly modified grip angle and stippled surface, which almost reproduces the Gen4 with no backstrap. I have a plug in my 23, not for dirt, but smoother reloading. It has been proven that a little dirt does not stop a Glock especially in the hole in the back. If you don't like a Glock, Don't buy a Glock, But don't hate a Glock until you handle and experience one. I own other pistols I'm a huge Sig fan, but I only walk out the door with one. It might be ugly, but it's gonna work and it's gonna hurt.
Give 'em some time, these are still the protoype frames....it's been almost 2 years in the making to get these out.
the prototypes were just released a couple weeks ago.
The design is over 20 years old. It is time for a significant upgrade and/or second model.
My thoughts? My Glock-19 2nd gen, GS prefix from long ago, LEO trade in from who knows where, or how many rounds through it. I added Trijicon N/S and a NY-1. That to me is how all Glocks should be....K.I.S.S. principal. (I realize we all have different opinions) but a stock Glock is how Glock Inc should be, if it aint broke dont fix it.
Damnit I wish the ass cancer would have just finished him off.
Actually, It seems the OP was trying to be quite constructive with his criticism of a firearm he says he prefers. You should read the whole thread. It hasn't been the hate fest you are assuming. Also, there is the possibility that you are overlooking the fact that, by all appearances, everyone who has posted in this thread has "handled and experienced" a glock enough to form an educated opinion.
Steve Jobs had pancreatic cancer not colon cancer. This is one of the deadliest forms of cancer and has an overall 5 year survival rate of 5.6%. Further, over half of cases are caught in the later stages and the 5 year survival rate is 1.9%.
(see: Cancer of the Pancreas - SEER Stat Fact Sheets)
Given his survival of pancreatic cancer and his successful liver transplant, it is basically a statistical miracle that Mr. Jobs is even alive.
There's only ONE topic on the planet that I am overly opinionated on and just a plain douche if you will...Apple products. Buy any gun, car, wife, boat, sand, mulch, juice, clothes or toilet paper that you like..but Apple products are STRAIGHT UP, DOWN and ACROSS yuppie minded tools of douchery.
The only product Apple produces that is worth a second look is a traditional iPod. Why is it the only item they sell worth a second look? It's the only item old Stevie can't "hitler-ize" like he does with everything else. Damnit I wish the ass cancer would have just finished him off.
Grip angle? Yeah.
Really? Yeah.
For some reason, no matter what the handgun, when I focus on the front sight and have good trigger control I get my hits. When you close your eyes and bring the gun up do the sights line up for you? For many people who started with pistols at a different grip angle it's not a natural pointing weapon. Not that this can't be corrected by training & practice, but it's still an issue for many.
I got it for reliability not how it "feels" or looks. Couldn't agree more. If they fix the grip angle I'll definately buy one. For now, I might someday.
If you want bells, wistles, and useless muzzle serations "like a XD" then thats what you should buy... Not a Glock.
Grip angle?
Really?
For some reason, no matter what the handgun, when I focus on the front sight and have good trigger control I get my hits.
I got it for reliability not how it "feels" or looks.
For some reason, no matter what the handgun, when I focus on the front sight and have good trigger control I get my hits.
I got it for reliability not how it "feels" or looks.
When the top player in the markets acts like they do not need to change or evolve, eventually their competitors will come along and prove them wrong.
Further, your opinion that front sight serrations are useless is no more or less valuable of an opinion than mine.
Also, any gun that requires a trigger pull to disassemble does not meet the definition idiot proof.
Finally, I do not want to buy another gun. I like the grip angle of my G19. I like the basic position of the controls. I really like the RTF 2 finish. I have about 7 years of muscle memory with the Glock platform. Switching to a new platform would make me less able to defend myself if the need arose.