I have not ever or will ever open carry. But I could careless if someone else does.
I'd like to see it, too.
Wait, I did! And it said that an exception to the law was a lawfully carried firearm for a lawful purpose. What about my EDC is unlawful?
Also, Federal law dictates that a member of the Armed Forces, Reserve or National Guard, while on duty, is not prohibited from carrying a firearm into a federal building.
They still throw a stink about it. Every year, my unit has a family day. Last year, we went bowling. I ended up educating my chain of command on OC. My Platoon Sergeant got on my ass about it, and I simply told him what the law was. He had a LTCH, and never heard of that.
Later, the 1st Sergeant was talking to me at lunch, and he agreed with me, told me that the PLT SGT was out of line talking to me like that.
Our Admin was interested in it, because he also didn't know that you could OC.
Shoot, our Commander was talking to me while I was OCing, and he didn't seem to mind.
Just can't do it in the Reserve Center, even though Federal law says I can.
Mind posting the law that says it is illegal?
Electronic Code of Federal Regulations:(l) Weapons and explosives . Notwithstanding the provisions of any other law, rule or regulation, no person while on postal property may carry firearms, other dangerous or deadly weapons, or explosives, either openly or concealed, or store the same on postal property, except for official purposes.
I'd like to see it, too.
Wait, I did! And it said that an exception to the law was a lawfully carried firearm for a lawful purpose. What about my EDC is unlawful?
Also, Federal law dictates that a member of the Armed Forces, Reserve or National Guard, while on duty, is not prohibited from carrying a firearm into a federal building.
They still throw a stink about it. Every year, my unit has a family day. Last year, we went bowling. I ended up educating my chain of command on OC. My Platoon Sergeant got on my ass about it, and I simply told him what the law was. He had a LTCH, and never heard of that.
Later, the 1st Sergeant was talking to me at lunch, and he agreed with me, told me that the PLT SGT was out of line talking to me like that.
Our Admin was interested in it, because he also didn't know that you could OC.
Shoot, our Commander was talking to me while I was OCing, and he didn't seem to mind.
Just can't do it in the Reserve Center, even though Federal law says I can.
It is a very debated topic and the vagaries of the law compared the policy of the USPS. Combine to lead me to believe that it is much more for appearance sake than a law with teeth to be enforced. It would be completely unconstitutional for the Federal government to restrict our Right to Bear Arms anyway!
(2) Whoever shall be found guilty of violating the rules and regulations in this section while on property under the charge and control of the Postal Service is subject to a fine as provided in 18 U.S.C. 3571 or imprisonment of not more than 30 days, or both.
Personally I work on a strict need-to-know basis on all information.
I don't open carry because if for some unlikely event I need to use mine I want the element of surprise. I don't put stickers on my truck, I don't wear gun logo t shirts, I do my very best to keep my carry concealed but you can make book on one thing - I'm always carrying.
The way someone else chooses to carry is none of my business.
Greetings,
Thought I'd share an article (linked) that definitely made up my mind to OC. However, I also CC when I carry a backup and/or when I don't want to leave the 2nd pistol in the car (i.e. oil changes). I also CC when I'd rather not test whether or not I can carry at all (i.e. they don't need to know because what they don't know won't hurt them - unless they're bad guys).
The Open Carry Argument
Most likely people will have read or at least heard of the "Mainsail Open Carry Argument". It's a very good read, and he doesn't try to convert anyone, just very logically and methodically states why HE does so.
Perhaps it's the engineer in me, but I can't find any logic issues with his post.
Enjoy!
Cheers!
Timjobillybob, the Department of Homeland security actually defined 'Official purposes' in federal law as entering a federal facility. So anytime you visit a post office, you ARE on 'official purposes.'
REAL ID Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Secretary of Homeland Security has currently defined "official purposes" as presenting state driver's licenses and identification cards for boarding commercially operated airline flights and entering federal buildings and nuclear power plants.
Drinkin COOL-Aid!
That is in regard to showing ID, and where you have to have a real ID to enter. From that link.
Also there is the question of whether or not a P.O. is a federal building.
I know that at least one attorney on here agrees with my interpretation of official business, mainly because I got it from him on this site.
"I am not aware of any army that teaches using surprise as a defense against attack. No squad of soldiers goes on patrol with their weapons hidden so that they can ‘surprise’ the enemy should they walk into an ambush."
Brilliant. It really is. My point exactly. Surprise does not deter attack.
Personally I work on a strict need-to-know basis on all information.
I don't open carry because if for some unlikely event I need to use mine I want the element of surprise. I don't put stickers on my truck, I don't wear gun logo t shirts, I do my very best to keep my carry concealed but you can make book on one thing - I'm always carrying.
The way someone else chooses to carry is none of my business.
Oh golly gee. I'm so glad I read this post. It's totally changed my mind.
You'll get more negative reaction to OC HERE on INGO than you ever will in real life.... just sayin'.
Not surprising. If I see a guy with a gun, I make it a point of not giving him SH*T. If I see a gal with a gun, willy does a pole vault. I just made that up and don't know what it means or why it happens.