It hurts to find out I'm obnoxious. :sadface:
I don't recall you ever being obnoxious. And as I said before, libertarians aren't obnoxious because they're libertarians. It's my theory that *******s are *******s because they're *******s, and not because they adhere to a particular ideology or creed. Of course I may be projecting. I was an ******* before I believed what I believe.
I'm proud to be obnoxious and recognized for my efforts! You don't get this way in just 50 years without a lot of work.
I think we need to find something to unite Libertarians, libertarians, classical liberals, conservatarians, genuine conservatives, and regular people.
We do all have a common enemy (the real socialist-statists/progressives) and regardless of the difference in the minutiae of their respective socio-political worldviews, they always seem to band together to get things done. They seem to bond over common themes of spending someone else's money, emotion over reason, envy, instigating class warfare, wealth dispersal for other people, elimination of personal responsibility and accountability, perpetuating genuine racism while branding all who disagree with their agenda "racists," ends always justifying the means regardless of the costs, and the eradication of the individual.
I've been bitten by the commie rep system. I really wish that were possible. I wish that we could unite on a few core principles, and table the rest. But I'm told basically that if I'm not 100% for liberty, I'm 100% against. Not a whole lotta overlap on that venn diagram.
I think it would behoove many of us to focus on the things that we have in common.
I'm willing. But is anyone else?
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I'm probably the one who first brought that term into this thread. I described my use and purpose for invoking that term. And you use it that way?Notice the maligned promised "utopia" is only promised by the anti-libertarian crowd...
Well, first of all, in a true free market society, I doubt you'll have enough poor to vote in those types of politicians anyway. I'm always amused at this argument that you have to use force to preserve a free society. I understand you've always lived in a society like that (America) and that's all you understand, but that's really just being purposefully unimaginative in order to malign what you don't understand. The Catholic Church killed a lot of round earth types too.
Please tell me which true free market society you've spent YOUR years living in. I'd like to hear all about it.
There has never been a real scalable, sustainable libertarian society. Why is that? Early America was closer to that than it is now by a long shot, but even that was a far cry from the logical conclusion of a free society. Why did America become less free?
If you haven't lived it, it is at best a theory. Some of the most logical theories fail utterly when they meet reality. Human nature does not naturally pursue logic. It does not naturally pursue liberty. The most natural human pursuit is self.