Donald Trump Quietly Helped Marine Whom Obama Ignored

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Donald Trump Quietly Helped Marine Whom Obama Ignored

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The Donald strikes again. At least someone cares about Americans.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Wouldn't it be nice for a change to have a president who give a flying f**k about those who actually sacrifice to serve this country?

 

[Kutnupe14]

Is this the same guy who has the DUI and drug problem, and was most recently a "guest" of our fair state? Not sure exactly why it falls on our president to bail out people who break crime is other nations. Apparently, self-responsibility only applies to some people, not all.
And I guess there are varying definitions of "quietly."

 

[voidsherpa]

Wouldn't it be nice for a change to have a president who give a flying f**k about those who actually sacrifice to serve this country?

What are you talking about, he hosts rose garden ceremonies for deserters.

 

[churchmouse]

What are you talking about, he hosts rose garden ceremonies for deserters.

And terrorists and criminals and and and and and

 

[Kutnupe14]

What are you talking about, he hosts rose garden ceremonies for deserters.

Right, Trump cares. Cares so much, he's willing to take several deferments so that other men can have the honor of spilling their blood for their nation. But then again going to a military academy as a kid and dodging STDs was his service.What a big hearted guy.

 

[Expat]

Wouldn't it be nice for a change to have a president who give a flying f**k about those who actually sacrifice to serve this country?

BLM or illegal aliens?

 

[IndyDave1776]

Is this the same guy who has the DUI and drug problem, and was most recently a "guest" of our fair state? Not sure exactly why it falls on our president to bail out people who break crime is other nations. Apparently, self-responsibility only applies to some people, not all.
And I guess there are varying definitions of "quietly."

I seem to recall that the young Marine made a deliberate effort to be within the law, albeit unsuccessfully. In addition to this, the Kenyan wants to overlook massive numbers of violations going the other way, and worse yet, the Mexican government routinely gives its active assistance to it nationals, ranging from the narrative's hard-working poor folk to the worst of criminals in breaking our laws in the preparation, execution, and kibitzing on their behalf after they are taken into custody in the US. In fact, if I were president, I would have the Mexican president, VP, and cabinet rounded up and executed with an unequivocal declaration to their successors that this sh*t will not be tolerated or wash, rinse, and repeat.

Now, do you really think picking up the damned phone is really such an earthshaking thing to expect?

 

[Kutnupe14]

And terrorists and criminals and and and and and

I seem to recall that the young Marine made a deliberate effort to be within the law, albeit unsuccessfully. In addition to this, the Kenyan wants to overlook massive numbers of violations going the other way, and worse yet, the Mexican government routinely gives its active assistance to it nationals, ranging from the narrative's hard-working poor folk to the worst of criminals in breaking our laws in the preparation, execution, and kibitzing on their behalf after they are taken into custody in the US. In fact, if I were president, I would have the Mexican president, VP, and cabinet rounded up and executed with an unequivocal declaration to their successors that this sh*t will not be tolerated or wash, rinse, and repeat.

Now, do you really think picking up the damned phone is really such an earthshaking thing to expect?

You sure seem to be on this execution kick recently. How about a lil habeas corpus first?
Just out of curiosity, should the president call every time an American is locked up abroad?

 

[churchmouse]

You sure seem to be on this execution kick recently. How about a lil habeas corpus first?
Just out of curiosity, should the president call every time an American is locked up abroad?

My comment was just to his guest list at the big white house they have him put up in.

 

[Kutnupe14]

My comment was just to his guest list at the big white house they have him put up in.

Oops, I multi-quoted by accident

 

[IndyDave1776]

You sure seem to be on this execution kick recently. How about a lil habeas corpus first?
Just out of curiosity, should the president call every time an American is locked up abroad?

Well, it has become pretty obvious that there isn't any other viable solution. Sorry, but a foreign government actively sponsoring a de facto invasion is not entitled to the benefit of our judicial process. Those jackasses deserve it far more than Saddam Hussein ever did.

As for the Americans locked up abroad, it depends. If they were deliberately engaged in criminal activity and had the benefit of a fair trial, it would be one thing. An honest mistake and/or a trial based on guilt unless you can prove yourself innocent (as with the Mexican system), it is different.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Well, it has become pretty obvious that there isn't any other viable solution. Sorry, but a foreign government actively sponsoring a de facto invasion is not entitled to the benefit of our judicial process. Those jackasses deserve it far more than Saddam Hussein ever did.

As for the Americans locked up abroad, it depends. If they were deliberately engaged in criminal activity and had the benefit of a fair trial, it would be one thing. An honest mistake and/or a trial based on guilt unless you can prove yourself innocent (as with the Mexican system), it is different.

For the most part, Americans incarcerated aboard, aren't abandoned by of govt. The State Department handles those issues. And while I haven't looked into whether this was the case in this instance, I image that the State Department was attempting to gain his release on their end. I just think it's ridiculous to say Obama didn't do this or that, when one never know the workings behind the scenes.

 

[IndyDave1776]

For the most part, Americans incarcerated aboard, aren't abandoned by of govt. The State Department handles those issues. And while I haven't looked into whether this was the case in this instance, I image that the State Department was attempting to gain his release on their end. I just think it's ridiculous to say Obama didn't do this or that, when one never know the workings behind the scenes.

When it appears that the strategy is to get the man released by death through old age, one has to have doubts.

 

[Que]

Maybe Trump is trying to relieve his guilt for being a draft dodger and undeserving of any service member's vote, so he is using his vast wealth to buy the support of those he desires to serve him? But, I could be wrong and he did it out of the kindness of his heart.

 

[oldpink]

You sure seem to be on this execution kick recently. How about a lil habeas corpus first?
Just out of curiosity, should the president call every time an American is locked up abroad?

Maybe he could go through all manner of secret back channels and work up a deal to release five senior Taliban terrorists in exchange for him instead?
Oh wai...

 

[Kutnupe14]

Maybe he could go through all manner of secret back channels and work up a deal to release five senior Taliban terrorists in exchange for him instead?
Oh wai...

I think there's a sizable difference between prisoners of war, and private persons commiting crimes in foreign countries.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

 

[BugI02]

Maybe Trump is trying to relieve his guilt for being a draft dodger and undeserving of any service member's vote, so he is using his vast wealth to buy the support of those he desires to serve him? But, I could be wrong and he did it out of the kindness of his heart.

Here's a further list of people who don't deserve any service member's vote, then. And this is just the Republicans ( note a few on the list served with honor )

From: Who served?



[h=3]Prominent Republicans[/h]

• Representative Patrick McHenry, R-NC - did not serve. Saw fit to endanger American troops' lives after a visit to Iraq by violating operational security and helping militias target their mortar attacks on the Green Zone.
• Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-KY - did not serve (1)
• Senate Assistant Minority Leader Trent Lott, R-MI - avoided the draft, did not serve.
• Senate Republican Conference Chairman Jon Kyl, R-AZ - did not serve.
• Senate Republican Conference Vice Chair John Cornyn, R-TX - did not serve.
• National Republican Senatorial Committee Chair John Ensign, R-NV - did not serve.
• House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-OH - did not serve.
• House Minority Whip Roy Blunt, R-MO - did not serve.
• House Republican Conerence Chair Adam Putnam, R-FL - did not serve.
• House Republican Policy Committee Thaddeus McCotter, R-MI - did not serve.
• National Republican Congressional Committee Chair Tom Cole, R-OK - did not serve.
• Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani - did not serve.
• Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney - did not serve in the military but did serve the Mormon Church on a 30-month mission to France.
• Former Senator Fred Thompson - did not serve.
• Senator John McCain - McCain's naval honors include the Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross. Why did the Bush campaign smear him so in 2000? At least Senators Cleland (D-GA), Kerry (D-MA), Kerrey (D-NE), Robb (D-VA) and Hagel (R-NE) defended him.
  
  

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• Former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert - avoided the draft, did not serve.
• Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey - avoided the draft, did not serve.
• Former House Majority Leader Tom Delay - avoided the draft, did not serve (1). "So many minority youths had volunteered ... that there was literally no room for patriotic folks like himself."
• Former House Majority Whip Roy Blunt - did not serve
• Former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist - did not serve. (An impressive medical resume, but not such a friend to cats in Boston.)
• Rick Santorum, R-PA, formerly third ranking Republican in the Senate - did not serve. (1)
• George Felix Allen, former Republican Senator from Virginia - a supporter of Nixon and the Vietnam war, did not serve. (1)
  
  
• Former Secretary of Defense Don Rumsfeld - served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as an aviator and flight instructor. (1) Served as President Reagan's Special Envoy to the Middle East and met with Saddam Hussein twice in 1983 and 1984.

• GW Bush - decided that a six-year Nat'l Guard commitment really means four years. Still says that he's "been to war." Huh?
• VP Cheney - several deferments (1, 2), the last by marriage (in his own words, "had other priorities than military service") (1)
• Former Att'y Gen. John Ashcroft - did not serve (1, 2); received seven deferment to teach business ed at SW Missouri State
• Jeb Bush, Florida Governor - did not serve. (1)
• Karl Rove - avoided the draft, did not serve (1), too busy being a Republican.
• Former Speaker Newt Gingrich - avoided the draft, did not serve (1, 2)
• Former President Ronald Reagan - due to poor eyesight, served in a noncombat role making movies for the Army in southern California during WWII. He later seems to have confused his role as an actor playing a tail gunner with the real thing.
• "B-1" Bob Dornan - avoided Korean War combat duty by enrolling in college acting classes (Orange County Weekly article). Enlisted only after the fighting was over in Korea.
• Phil Gramm - avoided the draft, did not serve, four (?) student deferments

• Congressman Ron Paul - active duty flight surgeon from 1963-65; Air National Guard from 1965-68. (link)
• Former Senator Bob Dole - an honorable man. http://www.bobdole.org/bio/wwII.php
• Chuck Hagel - two Purple Hearts and a Bronze Star, Vietnam. U.S. Senate: 404 Error Page
• Duke Cunningham - nominated for the Medal of Honor, received the Navy Cross, two Silver Stars, fifteen Air Medals, the Purple Heart, and several other decorations Recently entered plea bargain on felony charges of bribery, etc. etc.
• Senator Jeff Sessions U.S. Army Reserves, 1973-1986
• Colin Powell. What are we to make of Powell? On the one hand, a long career as a military manager. On the other hand, accused of covering up the My Lai massacre. Back on that first hand, one of the seemingly sane voices in this administration when it comes to Iraq (or at least he used to be). On the other hand, a clear hypocrite ("I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful and well-placed... managed to wangle slots in Reserve and National Guard units...")
• Representative Wayne Gilchrest (R-MD), served in USMC in Vietnam; wounded in action.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Here's a further list of people who don't deserve any service member's vote, then. And this is just the Republicans ( note a few on the list served with honor )

From: Who served?



Prominent Republicans

• Representative Patrick McHenry, R-NC - did not serve. Saw fit to endanger American troops' lives after a visit to Iraq by violating operational security and helping militias target their mortar attacks on the Green Zone.
• Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-KY - did not serve (1)
• Senate Assistant Minority Leader Trent Lott, R-MI - avoided the draft, did not serve.
• Senate Republican Conference Chairman Jon Kyl, R-AZ - did not serve.
• Senate Republican Conference Vice Chair John Cornyn, R-TX - did not serve.
• National Republican Senatorial Committee Chair John Ensign, R-NV - did not serve.
• House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-OH - did not serve.
• House Minority Whip Roy Blunt, R-MO - did not serve.
• House Republican Conerence Chair Adam Putnam, R-FL - did not serve.
• House Republican Policy Committee Thaddeus McCotter, R-MI - did not serve.
• National Republican Congressional Committee Chair Tom Cole, R-OK - did not serve.
• Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani - did not serve.
• Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney - did not serve in the military but did serve the Mormon Church on a 30-month mission to France.
• Former Senator Fred Thompson - did not serve.
• Senator John McCain - McCain's naval honors include the Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross. Why did the Bush campaign smear him so in 2000? At least Senators Cleland (D-GA), Kerry (D-MA), Kerrey (D-NE), Robb (D-VA) and Hagel (R-NE) defended him.
  
  

  ​

• Former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert - avoided the draft, did not serve.
• Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey - avoided the draft, did not serve.
• Former House Majority Leader Tom Delay - avoided the draft, did not serve (1). "So many minority youths had volunteered ... that there was literally no room for patriotic folks like himself."
• Former House Majority Whip Roy Blunt - did not serve
• Former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist - did not serve. (An impressive medical resume, but not such a friend to cats in Boston.)
• Rick Santorum, R-PA, formerly third ranking Republican in the Senate - did not serve. (1)
• George Felix Allen, former Republican Senator from Virginia - a supporter of Nixon and the Vietnam war, did not serve. (1)
• Former Secretary of Defense Don Rumsfeld - served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as an aviator and flight instructor. (1) Served as President Reagan's Special Envoy to the Middle East and met with Saddam Hussein twice in 1983 and 1984.

• GW Bush - decided that a six-year Nat'l Guard commitment really means four years. Still says that he's "been to war." Huh?
• VP Cheney - several deferments (1, 2), the last by marriage (in his own words, "had other priorities than military service") (1)
• Former Att'y Gen. John Ashcroft - did not serve (1, 2); received seven deferment to teach business ed at SW Missouri State
• Jeb Bush, Florida Governor - did not serve. (1)
• Karl Rove - avoided the draft, did not serve (1), too busy being a Republican.
• Former Speaker Newt Gingrich - avoided the draft, did not serve (1, 2)
• Former President Ronald Reagan - due to poor eyesight, served in a noncombat role making movies for the Army in southern California during WWII. He later seems to have confused his role as an actor playing a tail gunner with the real thing.
• "B-1" Bob Dornan - avoided Korean War combat duty by enrolling in college acting classes (Orange County Weekly article). Enlisted only after the fighting was over in Korea.
• Phil Gramm - avoided the draft, did not serve, four (?) student deferments

• Congressman Ron Paul - active duty flight surgeon from 1963-65; Air National Guard from 1965-68. (link)
• Former Senator Bob Dole - an honorable man. http://www.bobdole.org/bio/wwII.php
• Chuck Hagel - two Purple Hearts and a Bronze Star, Vietnam. U.S. Senate: 404 Error Page
• Duke Cunningham - nominated for the Medal of Honor, received the Navy Cross, two Silver Stars, fifteen Air Medals, the Purple Heart, and several other decorations Recently entered plea bargain on felony charges of bribery, etc. etc.
• Senator Jeff Sessions U.S. Army Reserves, 1973-1986
• Colin Powell. What are we to make of Powell? On the one hand, a long career as a military manager. On the other hand, accused of covering up the My Lai massacre. Back on that first hand, one of the seemingly sane voices in this administration when it comes to Iraq (or at least he used to be). On the other hand, a clear hypocrite ("I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful and well-placed... managed to wangle slots in Reserve and National Guard units...")
• Representative Wayne Gilchrest (R-MD), served in USMC in Vietnam; wounded in action.

Not serving and draft dodging.... yep, same thing. Lol