I would, but a guy told me it was illegal to carry with one in the chamber.
Um Nooooo.........Um, rack the slide, let the gun do its job.
Um Nooooo.........
I want to carry one in the chamber, then remove the mag to replace it, so the gun has 6 in the mag and one in the chamber- hence 6 +1.
The Taurus is a DAO only on the first shot, therefore, once the slide is racked, the hammer is fully cocked and I most certainly DO NOT want to run around with a fully loaded, fully cocked hammer for my EDC!! You cannot manually lower the hammer on this gun after racking it unless you fire it.
As I said, I want to have the gun fully loaded with one in the chamber (7 total) and a relaxed hammer, so when the trigger is first pulled, it cocks the hammer in DAO mode until the first shot is fired, then the semi-auto rack takes over for the next shot.
That was my question..... Is it possible to do this? If so, I don't see how, but hopefully someone maybe has tried something else that I haven't yet.
First and foremost, no need for the other smartazz, moronic post in the "liar" thread you made in reference to my question here. Foolish and unecessary...Just by the sheer nature of what DA and SA both mean, it is imposible to be DAO on the first shot with the hammer fully cocked.
The Taurus and S&W that you mentioned in your previous post, are both DAO = Double Action ONLY, repeat ONLY. So you don't really need to worry about running around cocked and locked.
Taurus Specs
S&W Bodyguard Specs
i do carry with my beretta +1 due to i know where the hammer is, but i'm having a very hard time with my g23. and ya let me have it, but i am very fond of it and very comfortable carrying it.
long story short i had a gen1 g17 was a police trade in, and was very worn in. one day i got home and took it out of the holster. was putting it into the cabinet i bumped the door then pop, and no my bugger hooker was not near it...
Who cares if you remember how many rounds you have in the gun? Are you going to count them as you defend yourself?
Handguns are already compromises. Carry as much ammo as you can. Don't short yourself. Top off your magazines if you have the luxury.
First and foremost, no need for the other smartazz, moronic post in the "liar" thread you made in reference to my question here. Foolish and unecessary...
Secondly, I'm fully aware of the nomenclature of the gun that I OWN, as well as, I certainly know how to operate it and fully know how IT operates. I don't need to read specs on the internet to know how it works...
What I'm trying to get across to anyone that can help is, I'd like to carry my gun with 6 +1, but don't want the hammer cocked when doing it.
1. If I'm holding the empty gun in my hand with the slide closed and the hammer uncocked, a full stroke of the trigger will activate the hammer in DAO mode.
2. If I take the same situation and now add a full mag., racking the slide to put one in the chamber, the hammer cock rail under the slide WILL fully cock the hammer in preparation for that round to be fired.
3. I can then take the mag. of only 5 back out (because a round has now been installed into the chamber) and install another round into the mag. to fill it up full to capacity of 6 rounds.
4. Once I re-install the mag. back into the gun, the gun is now "full", but the hammer is still cocked from the first round that was chambered, but never fired.
On guns with exposed hammers, this wouldn't be a big deal, because you could easily manually lower the hammer on the firing pin and still have a round safely in the chamber and a full mag.
With the Taurus TCP .380, you cannot get to the hammer, because it's nearly enclosed and shrouded, where you cannot lower the hammer like you can with an exposed hammer gun.
Get it now???
The only way I can think of doing this on my gun, is to *slowly* rack the slide to install a round and then *slowly* closing it, while holding the trigger, so the sear will disengage from the hammer while the slide is moving forward.
THEN, I believe I could actually have a chambered round with the hammer down, where the gun will operate in the DAO mode as I want it to. I guess I need to practice with it more to figure it out.
By the way junior, "hypothetically speaking", I own everything I say I do......
Umm, if your hammer is staying back on your TCP when you cycle the slide, you may be having a mechanical malfunction. The TCP, BG 380, Ruger LCP, along with the Kel-Tec P3-AT are all DAO, meaning they are always double action, hammer only comes back when you pull the trigger.
Sounds to me like Side armed might be on to something with reading the specs of the pistol in question, might be worth a try