Did I hear this right?

[JStarr]

Did I hear this right? That the United States Military has the authority to arrest and hold U.S. citizins and ship them the a FEMA camp with no expliation? If so, this is Majorly corrupt and un-constitutional.Something needs to be done about this. This is NOT the AMERICA I've grown to know and love.. Sad, really...

 

[BillyT]

It's for your protection. I think you should be happy the elites are thinking of YOU.

 

[JStarr]

All I have to say is if they try and come get me... they better pack a lunch.

 

[TaunTaun]

Nothing to see here, move along...move along...

We got a few threads going on this right now.

 

[ATOMonkey]

You guys act like this hasn't already been going on. Now it's just legal.

 

[cqcn88]

You guys act like this hasn't already been going on. Now it's just legal.

The military has already been kicking in doors and disappearing people inside the US?

 

[ATOMonkey]

The military has already been kicking in doors and disappearing people inside the US?

Mitary-ish...

One branch of the Federal Government is as good as another.

 

[M1 carbine dad]

Welcome to the United Socialist State of the country formerly known as America.

We're glad you are here...Now sit down, relax. Don't question us or we'll dump your keester into GITMO.

 

[BillyT]

Who is ready for some quality made in America torture?

 

[TaunTaun]

Keep America, American!

Stop outsourcing torture to India. MADE IN THE USA!

Stop those illegal immigrants from stealing our torture jobs here in the US.

 

[Blackhawk2001]

Andrew McCarthy is a former US Attorney (prosecuted the first World Trade Center Bombers) and a legal scholar. He said yesterday that the way the statute has been written, it does not apply to US citizens here in the United States.

In looking at various statutes regarding gun control and having them explained by several lawyers on this forum, I already realize that I don't know how to interpret "lawyerese". I would suggest that many of the folks who are screaming about this don't know how to interpret it either.

I've also heard, from folks who say they've read the statutory language, that this reiterates other statutes elsewhere in the US Code and, as such, is bad law, whether it does what everyone is screaming about or not. I really can't make up my mind about it, but since it hasn't been signed into law - unlike ObamaCare, which everyone seems to have forgotten about already - I'm willing to wait until it gets a hearing in Congress before I go ballistic and start losing my firearms to boating accidents in Lake Monroe or the Geist Reservoir.

 

[TaunTaun]

It's already passed both the House and the Senate, last step is signing by Obama.

 

[Blackhawk2001]

It's already passed both the House and the Senate, last step is signing by Obama.

OK, that means the language that McCarthy read is likely still in the law that was passed. The statute precludes US citizens in the United States from being subject to this law.

 

[insanemonkey]

Andrew McCarthy is a former US Attorney (prosecuted the first World Trade Center Bombers) and a legal scholar. He said yesterday that the way the statute has been written, it does not apply to US citizens here in the United States.

In looking at various statutes regarding gun control and having them explained by several lawyers on this forum, I already realize that I don't know how to interpret "lawyerese". I would suggest that many of the folks who are screaming about this don't know how to interpret it either.

I've also heard, from folks who say they've read the statutory language, that this reiterates other statutes elsewhere in the US Code and, as such, is bad law, whether it does what everyone is screaming about or not. I really can't make up my mind about it, but since it hasn't been signed into law - unlike ObamaCare, which everyone seems to have forgotten about already - I'm willing to wait until it gets a hearing in Congress before I go ballistic and start losing my firearms to boating accidents in Lake Monroe or the Geist Reservoir.

I have looked at the bill and from what I can tell it does not apply to Citizen anymore then the laws already on the books. I have read that there is another version of the bill or something that does say that. But every time I look at the bill posted online it does not say what people seem to think it does.

keep in mind I am just not a lawyer. I just try to interpret things as best as I can.

 

[ATOMonkey]

Sure it doesn't apply to citizens.

It only applies to Terrorists.

Now, tell me who the terrorists are.

 

[TaunTaun]

Sure it doesn't apply to citizens.

It only applies to Terrorists.

Now, tell me who the terrorists are.

Exactly my point. It only applies to citizens that happen to be aligned or are accused of being aligned with AQ or with a suspected terrorist group and MIGHT be supporting them in some way, shape, or form.

It places into law something that was unwritten before, namely the fact that the military has first dibs on detaining suspected american citizen terrorists. But now that it is effectively being put into code, it helps establish something for case law to be built upon, namely Gitmo detainees (even though they are not US citizens, just civilians).

Recent guidelines (still trying to find supporting information on this one), had DOJ revising what and who could be suspected for having terrorist ties. (Things such as stockpiling food, weapons, et al)

Having case law put into effect, builds a very narrow gap between the two.

 

[ATOMonkey]

Exactly my point. It only applies to citizens that happen to be aligned or are accused of being aligned with AQ or with a suspected terrorist group and MIGHT be supporting them in some way, shape, or form.

It places into law something that was unwritten before, namely the fact that the military has first dibs on detaining suspected american citizen terrorists. But now that it is effectively being put into code, it helps establish something for case law to be built upon, namely Gitmo detainees (even though they are not US citizens, just civilians).

Recent guidelines (still trying to find supporting information on this one), had DOJ revising what and who could be suspected for having terrorist ties. (Things such as stockpiling food, weapons, et al)

Having case law put into effect, builds a very narrow gap between the two.

Don't worry, I'm sure no one with EVER abuse this power. I mean, we'll always have restrained responsible people in positions of power, right?

I'm sure no one would use a part of the executive branch of government for political gain.

That would be ridiculous, like someone using the IRS to intimidate their opponent. Just crazy talk...

 

[rambone]

Go back to sleep everyone.

 

[jgreiner]

Who is ready for some quality made in America torture?

I thought Justin Biebers recording contract was that already.........

 

[lashicoN]

FEMA camps don't exist, remember?