Again, the 5.7 is just a .22mag, nothing more.
To Kirk's original point - one of the "laws" of programming (as stated many years ago by Fred Brooks) is that "there is no silver bullet"...
its obvious you have something invested in desparaging the 5.7 cartridge,
this here is why its important to know this stuff, anti gunners think its some magic gun that blows holes in stuff the way a 50 bmg does.My concern is more political than any "9 vs. .45, or Glock vs. 1911" or any of the other silly gun nut arguments that we have as a culture.
If one wishes to own a 5.7, then one should buy as many as he wants.
My concern is that we as a culture become more educated in order to respond to anti-gun arguments. We are better able to respond if we are educated instead of ignorant.
Chalupa - I apologize - I was incorrect in my statement that the two rounds are in a different class. They are not. I was taking the numbers that people were posting here at face value. I did that because I have experience with one round (22TCM) - and admittedly do not with the other (5.7x28). If the values people were throwing out above were correct - there would be a substantial diff between the two rounds. As you correctly point out - that's not a fair picture of things. For political reasons - people have had an interest in either making the FiveSeveN out to be some kind of Devil Spawned Round From Hell or into a glorified 22 magnum that tosses out daisies and unicorn farts... Neither is a fair assessment. I will edit my post above to reflect the truth as best I can. It's true that I'm a fan of the 22 TCM - but not at the expense of the truth. And the truth appears to be that they are similar. So that's where I will leave it.The point I am making here is that the common verriety of 5.7x28 ammunition is not loaded anywhere near the potential limits of the cartridge, and it is still more than "just a 22 mag". I also find it rediculous for the 22 TCM "afficianados" to propose that the TCM is somehow in a different class than the 5.7, when they both have similar case capacities and use the same diameter bullets.
Chalupa - I apologize - I was incorrect in my statement that the two rounds are in a different class. They are not. I was taking the numbers that people were posting here at face value .... It's true that I'm a fan of the 22 TCM - but not at the expense of the truth. And the truth appears to be that they are similar. So that's where I will leave it.
The big issue with porting it is the cartridge length. Charlie (NHT3) was showing me some efforts that folks are making to use it in a Glock 19 base with modified slide and barrel. The problem is, they are having to shorten the bullet length even more than it already is , in order to get it in the mags. I think you are thinking correctly in suggesting porting it to something 45 ish. Getting that extra length in the magwell is going to be the hard part.Thanks.I've been looking at the 22tcm as well. It looks like a neat cartridge, I'm just not a 1911 guy. I hope it becomes accepted enough to port it to other 45acp platforms.